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Students can’t get off their phones. Schools have had enough

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Re: Students can’t get off their phones. Schools have had enough

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Post by MagicMoonlight »

ido wrote: post #142
Octokiddie wrote: post #9

Parents have not idea whatsoever of the destruction that phones have wrought on the education system, both in the large and in the small. Students who claim otherwise are gaslighting their parents. Parents are unfortunately all too willing to believe the lies because of course their child is above average and would never completely tune out of class for another hit on the electronic crack pipe. At this point, the pro…

Is this an American thing? Here in Germany my son is not allowed to have a phone at school. He doesn't have one anyway, but kids that do have to give up their phones in the morning, which are in a locked box and they get them back in the afternoon when they go home. Nobody ever asked us about it, it's simply school policy.

I’m sure that’s what happens in theory but there’s absolutely no way any of them are actually handing their phones in

Re: Students can’t get off their phones. Schools have had enough

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Post by MagicMoonlight »

I’m fascinated by the new generation. Some of them seem like creatures rather than humans. They just screech and twitch and swipe around their phone. A lot of them don’t even have any form of language.

I have no idea what’s going to happen when they start reaching their teens and above. How are they going to have a job or sit an exam?

Re: Students can’t get off their phones. Schools have had enough

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Post by Freedom2 »

MagicMoonlight wrote: post #191
ido wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this an American thing? Here in Germany my son is not allowed to have a phone at school. He doesn't have one anyway, but kids that do have to give up their phones in the morning, which are in a locked box and they get them back in the afternoon when they go home. Nobody ever asked us about it, it's simply school policy.

I’m sure that’s what happens in theory but there’s absolutely no way any of them are actually handing their phones in

Believe it or not, some countries and cultures are able to enforce such policies. Dismissing it as 'absolutely no way' without any shred of evidence is absurd.

Re: Students can’t get off their phones. Schools have had enough

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Post by germinalphrase »

throwaway50603 wrote: post #171
germinalphrase wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, I also appreciate the increased flexibility modern comms afford us, but we do indeed have differing definitions of legitimate need.

And that definition is not up to either schools or teachers, but parents and potentially the students (depending on the parents).

Clearly, that is not True.

Re: Students can’t get off their phones. Schools have had enough

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Post by rationalist »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #96
hypertele-Xii wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Build a giant Faraday cage around the classrooms. Blocks telecomms.

Then you’ll get a visit from the FCC.

Faraday cages are not illegal, actively jamming by emitting ypur own signals is what the FCC cares about.

Re: Students can’t get off their phones. Schools have had enough

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Post by deafpolygon »

ido wrote: post #142
Octokiddie wrote: post #9

Parents have not idea whatsoever of the destruction that phones have wrought on the education system, both in the large and in the small. Students who claim otherwise are gaslighting their parents. Parents are unfortunately all too willing to believe the lies because of course their child is above average and would never completely tune out of class for another hit on the electronic crack pipe. At this point, the pro…

Is this an American thing? Here in Germany my son is not allowed to have a phone at school. He doesn't have one anyway, but kids that do have to give up their phones in the morning, which are in a locked box and they get them back in the afternoon when they go home. Nobody ever asked us about it, it's simply school policy.

Here in the NL, it is not enforced or a policy in most public schools.

Re: Students can’t get off their phones. Schools have had enough

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Post by bluefirebrand »

GalenErso wrote: post #20
Octokiddie wrote: post #9

Parents have not idea whatsoever of the destruction that phones have wrought on the education system, both in the large and in the small. Students who claim otherwise are gaslighting their parents. Parents are unfortunately all too willing to believe the lies because of course their child is above average and would never completely tune out of class for another hit on the electronic crack pipe. At this point, the pro…

I didn't get my first real phone until after high school, while everyone else had one. I graduated salutatorian. I was able to focus on my homework after school for hours without distractions. I had a computer at home, but it was pretty crappy.

I didn't get a phone until after high school and everyone else had one.

I didn't graduate salutatorian, I was miserable and lonely because I got left out of anything outside of school by my friends because I didn't have a phone.

I still don't have many friends to this day and I sometimes wonder if my lack of a social experience in high school crippled my ability to develop friendships.

So I mean.. maybe there's different outcomes. Not having a phone doesn't automatically make you productive.

Re: Students can’t get off their phones. Schools have had enough

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Post by jstarfish »

mdgrech23 wrote: post #86
Octokiddie wrote: post #9

Parents have not idea whatsoever of the destruction that phones have wrought on the education system, both in the large and in the small. Students who claim otherwise are gaslighting their parents. Parents are unfortunately all too willing to believe the lies because of course their child is above average and would never completely tune out of class for another hit on the electronic crack pipe. At this point, the pro…

Let's be real - parents want their kids to have phones at school b/c of school shootings.

The bullet-stopping ability of the iPhone leaves a lot to be desired.

Re: Students can’t get off their phones. Schools have had enough

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Post by tomjen3 »

ethbr0 wrote: post #153
williamcotton wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Speak of the devil... I just checked my messages and saw this from my wife an hour ago: "ACC north ridge has an armed person on campus. Don’t go out" I checked the news just now and found this out: "AUSTIN (KXAN) — A shelter-in-place order was lifted for the Austin Community College Northridge Campus. The campus issued the order at 8:50 a.m. amid reports of a possible armed person nearby. Police investigated the repo…

To me, this is the "past generations" litmus test I measure any of my personal preferences against. If people were able to handle not-it in 1920, it's probably a "nice to have" rather than a "must have." Which, we can all feel very strongly about things that are nice to have, but people were also doing just fine before constant connectivity was a thing.

In the 1920s you didn't have email, but the post was delivered multiple times a day.

You didn't have telephone, but probably somebody nearby you could call and give a message.

You didn't have a freezer, but you had a butcher within walking distance.

And you didn't have a phone in your school, but you also didn't have retarded media that spread news that required.

Also you could probably have a gun on you, and if it was hunting season there would be plenty of guns in the parking lot to stop a school threat.

Re: Students can’t get off their phones. Schools have had enough

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Post by throwaway50603 »

germinalphrase wrote: post #194
throwaway50603 wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And that definition is not up to either schools or teachers, but parents and potentially the students (depending on the parents).

Clearly, that is not True.

I'm not sure what you mean, it's clearly true where I live.
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