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Re: Reduced cancer mortality with daily Vitamin D intake

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Post by lynx23 »

dcow wrote: post #103
lynx23 wrote: post #85

It took me a long time, and virtually no help from outside, to discover that vitamin D effectively cures my winter depression. I was never really feeling good around that time of the year, but it wasn't problematic enough to actually do something about it. But when my gut started to revolt around that time too, I started to feel distinctly unwell. So I went to my doctor, who gave me an approintment with a nutrition s…

This (among other things) makes me wonder why we don't have better metrics and monitoring solutions for the human body. Your option is anecdotal self-diagnosis, or a full blood panel after seeing a doctor and convincing them that you need to be tested. It seems there's room for a product that monitors your health and sends you notifications when you need to address any metrics that are falling out of normal tolerance…

I have never digged into the matter, but the closest existing thing which resembles your idea is that apparently, in Japan, there are toilets which do automatic testing and reporting. That seems like a neat idea because it does not require any kind of invasive procedure, but it is likely also a bit limited in what it can test for.

Re: Reduced cancer mortality with daily Vitamin D intake

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Post by ddlutz »

Anybody vitamin D deficient even after supplementation? I had mine checked September of last year, it was low even when taking 2000 IU a day, so DR gave me a 50,000 IU pill to take once a week. It's still considered deficient, but not as deficient. I live in Seattle, so not much sun has been out the past 6 months, not sure if that's skewing numbers lower than they are in the summer.

Re: Reduced cancer mortality with daily Vitamin D intake

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Post by tablarasa »

candiddevmike wrote: post #36
AlecSchueler wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Overfishing is serious enough at this point that I'd rather take a small health risk than contribute to it.

Not sure why you are being downvoted. Salmon (mentioned in other siblings) is a perfect example of over fishing, and the farmed stuff tends to be of terrible quality and fed absolute garbage/treated terribly.

Salmon is found in high-latitude systems around the globe in both hemispheres. Overfishing is something that occurs to populations, not species. Most of the salmon populations that I am familiar with are not over-fished, but have suffered from spawning habitat loss due to dams and logging. Those are major issues and they continue to negatively affect those populations; you are doing the loggers and dam builders a favor by blaming fishing, which is far easier (and more politically palatable) to regulate.

Re: Reduced cancer mortality with daily Vitamin D intake

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Post by atombender »

frickinLasers wrote: post #35

It's maybe a good time to re-post this in-depth series on vitamin D supplementation. You don't want to take too much. https://www.devaboone.com/post/vitamin-d-part-2-shannon-s-st...

The Mayo Clinic thinks otherwise: https://www.mayoclinicproceedings.org/article/S0025-6196%281...

Another article about the findings: https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/vitamin-d-toxi...

Re: Reduced cancer mortality with daily Vitamin D intake

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Post by kyleyeats »

lynx23 wrote: post #85

It took me a long time, and virtually no help from outside, to discover that vitamin D effectively cures my winter depression. I was never really feeling good around that time of the year, but it wasn't problematic enough to actually do something about it. But when my gut started to revolt around that time too, I started to feel distinctly unwell. So I went to my doctor, who gave me an approintment with a nutrition s…

The biggest thing to know is the six-week lag time of effects either way.

You aren't at peak sadness around the solstice, or around Christmas, you're sad six weeks after that-- around Valentine's Day.

Re: Reduced cancer mortality with daily Vitamin D intake

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Post by tornato7 »

BeetleB wrote: post #94
lynx23 wrote: post #85

It took me a long time, and virtually no help from outside, to discover that vitamin D effectively cures my winter depression. I was never really feeling good around that time of the year, but it wasn't problematic enough to actually do something about it. But when my gut started to revolt around that time too, I started to feel distinctly unwell. So I went to my doctor, who gave me an approintment with a nutrition s…

> Why I type this here? I found it interesting that I had to discover this cure on my own. The medical system wuldn't have figured that out on their own, let alone accept that it was the single solution. It's because studies showing correlation between Vitamin D level and winter depression/SAD are mixed. I'm not saying it's a placebo. If it works for some people - great! But you can't expect doctors to recommend it w…

The studies are mixed because there is no one-size-fits-all solution to these problems, and a simple remedy that works for one person may not work for another. Antidepressants are sort of a one-size-fits-all solution because they tackle the problem, not the cause of the problem.

Medical doctors will usually jump right to a pharmaceutical solution to any problem, even though a little experimentation with simpler remedies doesn't hurt. For example, I was prescribed a $30k/yr drug with lifetime dependence for a problem that I managed to solve with a simple change in diet.

Liability and economic incentives will almost always lead doctors to prescribing the most expensive solution to an issue, so it's unfortunately up to the patient to figure out if there's an alternative solution to their problem.

Re: Reduced cancer mortality with daily Vitamin D intake

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Post by BobbyJo »

bitL wrote: post #69
alejohausner wrote: post #54

The global distribution of many types of cancer is strongly related to latitude. The farther you are from the equator, the higher the rate of disease. The more sun you get, the less cancer. It's hard not to infer that sun exposure and thus synthesis of vitamin D helps prevent many cancers. We've been urged to avoid sun exposure because it can cause skin cancer. But those cancers are squamous and basal cell carcinomas…

Taking D3 without K2 gives you atherosclerosis though so it's wise to combine the two.

Source?

Re: Reduced cancer mortality with daily Vitamin D intake

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Post by atombender »

kstrauser wrote: post #26

Given that D3 is dirt cheap and lots of us are low in it, is there any downside to taking a reasonable daily dose?

Your skin releases around 10,000 IU if you spend an hour outside in full sun in the summer. So that, at least, should be quite safe. This article from the Mayo Clinic argues that vitamin D toxicity has been vastly overstated. [1]

[1] https://www.mayoclinicproceedings.org/article/S0025-6196%281...

Re: Reduced cancer mortality with daily Vitamin D intake

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Post by loeg »

dcow wrote: post #103
lynx23 wrote: post #85

It took me a long time, and virtually no help from outside, to discover that vitamin D effectively cures my winter depression. I was never really feeling good around that time of the year, but it wasn't problematic enough to actually do something about it. But when my gut started to revolt around that time too, I started to feel distinctly unwell. So I went to my doctor, who gave me an approintment with a nutrition s…

This (among other things) makes me wonder why we don't have better metrics and monitoring solutions for the human body. Your option is anecdotal self-diagnosis, or a full blood panel after seeing a doctor and convincing them that you need to be tested. It seems there's room for a product that monitors your health and sends you notifications when you need to address any metrics that are falling out of normal tolerance…

Blood panels are expensive and laborious to do with any frequency. Your body does a reasonably good job of monitoring and remediation on its own.
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