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Many people living in the 'Diabetes Belt' are plagued with medical debt

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Re: Many people living in the 'Diabetes Belt' are plagued with medical debt

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It's a good thing we can address problems on multiple levels then, the personal responsibility level and when that fails with a social safety net.

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Re: Many people living in the 'Diabetes Belt' are plagued with medical debt

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It's a good thing we can address problems on multiple levels then, the personal responsibility level and when that fails with a social safety net.

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Agreed, but for the people with broken pancreases I bet they're thankful for the safety net.

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Industry caters to consumer demand. If consumers wanted white meat, fruit and vegetables, they would have been provided as cheaply and abundantly as red meat and corn syrup.

Industry can also steer demand via advertising.

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Re: Many people living in the 'Diabetes Belt' are plagued with medical debt

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"Seventy-nine out of the 100 counties with the highest levels of medical debt are in states that have not expanded Medicaid under the ACA" Who benefits in these 10 states that have still failed to expand Medicaid? What is the upside, to either the populations of these states or the politicians who run these states and make those decisions? Because the downsides are obvious and seem to directly harm a lot of people.

The politicians benefit, and run on a platform of deflection. "Just imagine how much worse it would be if the government helped you."

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The majority of people with T2D who are also overweight would be asymptomatic if they lost weight. So there’s a free treatment available to a large subset of these people.

Most health insurance doesn't cover weight loss treatment without a condition like T2D, heart issues, etc. If you're fat enough that it's damaging your health you're extremely unlikely to be able to lose it without significant support through medicine, nutritionists, etc.

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The majority of people with T2D who are also overweight would be asymptomatic if they lost weight. So there’s a free treatment available to a large subset of these people.

This is bad policy begeting a public health crisis, not just a lot of people all making the same poor life choices.

Re: Many people living in the 'Diabetes Belt' are plagued with medical debt

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"Seventy-nine out of the 100 counties with the highest levels of medical debt are in states that have not expanded Medicaid under the ACA" Who benefits in these 10 states that have still failed to expand Medicaid? What is the upside, to either the populations of these states or the politicians who run these states and make those decisions? Because the downsides are obvious and seem to directly harm a lot of people.

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Type 2 diabetes doesn't really wreck the pancreas, at least no more than other tissues. The problem is that cells throughout the body become insulin resistant. While it is obviously better to avoid the condition in the first place, most cases if caught early enough can be put into remission by eliminating carbohydrate consumption. (Adherence to such a diet can be difficult for many patients due to economic and cultural issues.)

Re: Many people living in the 'Diabetes Belt' are plagued with medical debt

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The majority of people with T2D who are also overweight would be asymptomatic if they lost weight. So there’s a free treatment available to a large subset of these people.

Most health insurance doesn't cover weight loss treatment without a condition like T2D, heart issues, etc. If you're fat enough that it's damaging your health you're extremely unlikely to be able to lose it without significant support through medicine, nutritionists, etc.

Losing weight doesn't cost money.

Re: Many people living in the 'Diabetes Belt' are plagued with medical debt

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I don't think it helps to call them "degenerate." They're human beings. Some of them, more clever than you. Who are trapped in lives of quiet desperation.

We think we are civilized, but we are just as barbarous as the world of Hugo's Les Misérables. We live in a world filled with Inspector Javert's spending their lives chasing their Valjeans.

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