I'll pick up the app (I have it on my Mac), once I get an M1 iPad (which may be a while).
Give them some time to work out the bugs.
Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad
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#242Neat....although sad that it's via a subscription model, rather than buying the program outright. That said, what's the point of this? Everyone works off laptops already, even people new to A/V production. Especially in the audio world, laptops are just so much more convenient because you can host 3rd party plugins and other stuff like sample libraries. Can't do that on an iPad, can you?
To a certain extent you have to ask what does a one-off purchase of an App mean any more. We got to a point on desktop where you could buy a windows XP application and it'd last forever, and that's fine. Or even a OS X application for several years. But mobile operating systems are still a treadmill. If you buy the app what are you getting? This version and no updates? That's not how iOS works. Will it support future…
This is only an issue on one operating system. Purchasing an application on Windows still comes with absolutely none of this worry. You can still use applications that are decades old on Windows 11. It's very odd that this is now accepted as a norm that is inevitable, rather than an obvious and avoidable disadvantage of Apple's ecosystem.
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#243This is exciting.
I'd love it if they opened the iPad up to tools like Rogue Amoeba's Loopback[1], because a tool that allows audio capture from the device is critical for any sampling workflow.
I'm not holding my breath, but that would complete the dream, for me.
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#244More companies should just adopt Jetbrains model. Month subscription available, but by paying the annual subscription you get a perpetual license for the last release covered by your purchase, which makes an annual subscription pretty much the same as "buy with 1 year of updates".
iOS devices don't support downloading specific versions of apps, and you cannot sideload. Apple has made this model impossible on iOS.
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#245Earlier quoted context omitted.
Does a piano player relying on a piano not count as “gear enabling an artist”? If there’s no piano does that true artist start playing a napkin instead because it’s within their reach?
You will be surprised when you find out how many amazing piano players have practice in a piece of wood/cardboard with the keys drawn/carved
As a piano player I definitely depend on the existence of a piano for me to play. Better tools absolutely enable artists to make better things faster — Yo-Yo Ma can make a cheap cello sound amazing, but he can make an expensive cello sound even more amazing.
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#246Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've got a Steam Deck and I've been curious about using that as a music composition tool. The controls offer some interesting possibilities as performance inputs. The problem is that all Windows or Linux music apps tend to presume a large monitor and a mouse and keyboard. I've not found anything terribly usable.
That's a really interesting idea! With the dual trackpads plus all standard controller inputs and the paddles on the back, the Deck is really uniquely positioned here. You could try plugging in a monitor via HDMI. If you don't have a dock (the JSAUX one is cheap and gets great reviews, but I personally have the official one) you can get a pretty cheap USBC to HDMI cable nearly anywhere. I found some in stock at a ran…
I got the JSAUX dock while waiting for Valve to release the official dock. Never bought the official on release, the Gen 2 JSAUX with the extra USBs is awesome. Docked my deck to my TV and its both a media player as well as my console, almost never remove it except to dust :D. Also, the USB has recognized all peripherals I've thrown at it (I use desktop mode 98% of the time) and the ethernet works as expected.
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#247A subscription for Logic is nuts. It's already $300 software for the Mac. I would be fine paying another one-time fee if it meant I had it forever on my iPad. It really is stellar software, as evidenced by it's two-decade presence in the industry, but to move to subscription feels very... un-Apple (at least in this Professional Media Software context).
It's $199. It's only ever been $499 until 2013, when the price suddently dropped to $199, and it has been that ever since. Logic Pro is ridiculously cheap compared to most other DAW out there. There aren't tiers, there's no upsell to unlock basic features like unlimited tracks, it's just a full featured DAW, the end. Heack, a license for the "full feature, but not bundle-padded, version of X" costs: - Reason: $60 (pe…
I've been poor before and $200 one-time is WAY less expensive than $5/mo recurring. If I can't afford to save $200 I sure can't afford to pay $5 recurring. Recurring subscriptions are for the wealthy, not the poor, the poor can do just fine with freeware or some 10 year old version of whatever.
Paying a recurring monthly subscription isn't the only way to get a trial.
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#248Am I the only one that finds the process of getting files of a decent size from non-Apple devices to Apple mobile devices incredibly frustrating, almost enough to be a deal breaker? What is the current best practice for the fastest way to get video files on an IPad as of now?
It is inexcusably obnoxious to do without iCloud, thanks to iOS' hamstrung file system & APIs, plus lightning being stuck on USB 2.0 speeds. But I think this is why the iPad Pro is on USB-C now: so you can hook up an external hard drive with all your bigass files.
I'm surprised they haven't added support in Finder for the iPad to just show up with direct access to its file directory. Surely you must be able to directly move files between an iPad and a Mac that don't require going over Airdrop or iCloud?
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#249Subscription. I'm out. I already paid for these softwares on Mac and I don't get even a discount in the price. I was expecting some kind of upgrade option.
This is professional grade software and you won't pay $5 a month? Which you can cancel whenever you're not using it?
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#250Subscription. I'm out. I already paid for these softwares on Mac and I don't get even a discount in the price. I was expecting some kind of upgrade option.
Sure.. who's gonna pay for updates? I don't understand how people on HN can devalue their own profession. By your reasoning, once an application has been released, you're out of a job. Oh hey.. isn't that the current market!
As a developer, I get it.
As a user, fuck subscriptions. Subscriptions just cause me to move all my tooling to open source variants over time. Developer livelihood is not my concern.
Maybe OSS with a Pateron-style model is the way forward?