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US on track to set record in 2023 for mass killings after series of shootings

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Re: US on track to set record in 2023 for mass killings after series of shootings

#81

Why do posts like this get flagged? Are Americans not allowed to talk about their violent culture on HN?

Because it's off-topic for HN. From the HN guidelines linked at the bottom of the page:

"Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, ... If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic"

Re: US on track to set record in 2023 for mass killings after series of shootings

#82
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Cat's out of the bag on this one. You will never get all the guns back, not without running a very real risk of instigating civil war. Ms. Jackson Lee thinks the real cause of the problem is "guns, guns, guns" - I say it's criminals, criminals, criminals. Why's Texas have so many criminals willing to use firearms for evil?

Sorry, clarifying questions: Are you saying Texas has more criminals? And would that apply to red states in general, as they have the most mass shootings?

Re: US on track to set record in 2023 for mass killings after series of shootings

#83
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't take foreign influence for shocking violence to get attention. Sensational news has been a big part of mass media as long as mass media has existed.

No but foreign influence does help when any comment pointing out that there are things more important for the country to fix than mass shootings(heart disease and obesity) are immediately downvoted and mocked.

Again, it doesn't suggest anything about foreign influence for a person to disagree with you. Telling people not to worry about (increasing) spectacular violence because they're more likely to die in a car accident reads as if you're changing the subject because you don't want to talk about it.

Re: US on track to set record in 2023 for mass killings after series of shootings

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Cat's out of the bag on this one. You will never get all the guns back, not without running a very real risk of instigating civil war. Ms. Jackson Lee thinks the real cause of the problem is "guns, guns, guns" - I say it's criminals, criminals, criminals. Why's Texas have so many criminals willing to use firearms for evil?

A agree you can't 'get all the guns back', but there are still reasons to consider more stringent controls, two spring to mind: 1) It's about the social permission you give to people by making guns easily available. For example, in many European countries, bars, pubs and drinking are an absolutely central part of life, whereas in the US drinking establishments often have a much more 'taboo' vibe about them. Alcohol c…

"Sometimes a tiny bit of friction makes a big difference."

If it is a tiny bit of friction, then SCOTUS would likely allow it. If not, it could be struck down. But what tiny bit of friction is being proposed that will have an impact on homicides?

It seems your argument is that reducing the number of guns will reduce shootings and that we can reduce them with "a tiny bit of friction". But the courts are generally holding that if the restrictions prevent qualified individuals from obtaining a gun, then it is not a tiny bit of friction, but an infringement on rights. It seems these are incompatible.

Re: US on track to set record in 2023 for mass killings after series of shootings

#86

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Sigh. This is like Americans being terrified of living in Australia, b/c they've been convinced by Animal Planet that they'll be killed by venomous wildlife. There are dangerous places, but everyone you are working with will quickly let you know where they are in your area, and you can avoid them.

> There are dangerous places, but everyone you are working with will quickly let you know where they are in your area, and you can avoid them

People were randomly shot while they were walking out of a H&M in a premium outlet mall in suburban Dallas with a Whole Foods nearby. Doubt you can classify that as a 'dangerous place'. I do agree that this is not common in the USA.

Re: US on track to set record in 2023 for mass killings after series of shootings

#87
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Cat's out of the bag on this one. You will never get all the guns back, not without running a very real risk of instigating civil war. Ms. Jackson Lee thinks the real cause of the problem is "guns, guns, guns" - I say it's criminals, criminals, criminals. Why's Texas have so many criminals willing to use firearms for evil?

Why's Texas have so many criminals Texas isn't an outlier in crime. It ranks 21st in murder rate . 84% of the population is urban (15th most urban state). Dallas and Houston are the 4th and 5th largest metro areas in the country, and struggle with the same crime problem as other big metros like New York, LA, Philadelphia, Chicago, Atlanta.

Is that right?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/gun-violen...

Re: US on track to set record in 2023 for mass killings after series of shootings

#88

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Depends where you are if doing so represents an upgrade in safety, I live here and really want to get out, not so much due to shootings but general political corruption.

As i said the only reason is money. Where I live is a safe place. Crime free (capital crimes) and it's been like that as far as i can remember

Re: US on track to set record in 2023 for mass killings after series of shootings

#89
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I can't put my finger on it precisely, but it feels like there are outside influences radicalizing people via social media with an ultimate goal of destabilizing the United States.

Yup, it's been long known that some state actors, like Russia, do that, usually by amplifying alt-right content.

Re: US on track to set record in 2023 for mass killings after series of shootings

#90
post #3

Cat's out of the bag on this one. You will never get all the guns back, not without running a very real risk of instigating civil war. Ms. Jackson Lee thinks the real cause of the problem is "guns, guns, guns" - I say it's criminals, criminals, criminals. Why's Texas have so many criminals willing to use firearms for evil?

I am far less free now that there are daily mass shootings. Me and millions of people stay in their homes and never go to populated places. It sucks and I would be willing to go to a deeper level of hell if it meant undoing these shackles.

You didn't say if you have kids or not but as a parent, those worries are multiplied. There are lots of things we won't do because of the additional risk. The terrorists (white nationalists, red pills, etc) are winning.
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