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Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by mvanbaak »

vuln wrote: post #43
mvanbaak wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

iPad speakers in a classroom is not going to cut it, they are nowhere near powerful enough. in an office environment you can use the tv audio, or the video conferencing unit (in my experience even a 10man shop has those). again, for the very small percentage of people that fall outside of the 'masses' it is a problem, and I totally understand that. But none of the big brands care about the use cases that are not the…

The iPad Pro has 4 speakers. You seem so matter of fact with your opinion. How big is the classroom in your mind? Video conferencing units like you bring up most of the time need separate drivers, or an app to connect. Should I have all these different teleconferencing apps on my iPad in case I show up to a client that uses xyz model? What happened to apple’s “it just works”

Yes, as I tried to make clear in my post I'm replying based on my experience, which is based on the area I live and work in. Almost all of the places I went have Logitech video conferencing gear, which dont need a single driver or minute of setup, as they simply JustWork (either with Mac, linux or windows)

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by gampleman »

basisword wrote: post #64

So many “I don’t get it” comments in this thread. And complaints about the subscription pricing. The market for this seems pretty obvious - teenagers. iPad seems like the default computer for kids these days and kids like to create. When I was a teenager I had to build my own PC, struggle to pirate Cubase and some plugins and it was a nightmare. When I finally got a MacBook Logic being $200 was out of reach still. A…

Also if you want to do just one project (i.e. you don't produce music/video for a living, but you know enough to do your own stuff), then you can probably get away with paying $5 a month for just enough months to finish your project.

That was a use case completely uncatered for with a $400 one-off license fee.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by hammyhavoc »

DamnInteresting wrote: post #184
bookaway wrote: post #124

Am I the only one that finds the process of getting files of a decent size from non-Apple devices to Apple mobile devices incredibly frustrating, almost enough to be a deal breaker? What is the current best practice for the fastest way to get video files on an IPad as of now?

It's not just non-Apple devices. I use my iPad to make music and sketches, and sometimes I need to move files between my iPad and MacBook. Airdrop almost never works, and transferring in the Files app is confusing--sometimes the file won't appear in the relevant app, or sometimes it appears twice, and it's not clear which is the newer version. I often resort to emailing the files back and forth to myself as attachmen…

Not been an Apple user since a little while after Steve Jobs passed away, but this is in stark contrast to what people usually say about Airdrop. What I usually hear is that it's the greatest thing since sliced bread and how everybody should be using it.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by mvanbaak »

freedomben wrote: post #176
mvanbaak wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

iPad speakers in a classroom is not going to cut it, they are nowhere near powerful enough. in an office environment you can use the tv audio, or the video conferencing unit (in my experience even a 10man shop has those). again, for the very small percentage of people that fall outside of the 'masses' it is a problem, and I totally understand that. But none of the big brands care about the use cases that are not the…

Small and some medium-sized classrooms it absolutely does cut it. If you're playing for a theatre-sized college classroom of course it wouldn't. But also, why does that matter? If the speakers don't work (i.e. cannot be engaged while connected to a projector) but won't cut it for the classroom, why is that better than if they can work but aren't loud enough? At least in the latter situation the user has the option an…

You are right, and like I said, it for sure is bad that it wont work for the common use case. Should it support your use case? YES! Does it? no. Is there some kind of fair explanation? also Yes. Wether you like it or not (and to be clear, I also dont like it, but at least I can understand why)

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by thomastjeffery »

dfxm12 wrote: post #163
andybak wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've got a Steam Deck and I've been curious about using that as a music composition tool. The controls offer some interesting possibilities as performance inputs. The problem is that all Windows or Linux music apps tend to presume a large monitor and a mouse and keyboard. I've not found anything terribly usable.

Can steam deck run any Linux application? You might have fun designing creative abstractions in Pure Data meant to fit in the UI. Then, if you can hook it up to a keyboard, you might be able to take advantage of the user inputs on the steam deck & keyboard to make an ersatz OP-1.

> Can steam deck run any Linux application?

Yes. It's amd64, so you probably don't even need to compile it, either.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by 2OEH8eoCRo0 »

jbverschoor wrote: post #145
silveira wrote: post #14

Subscription. I'm out. I already paid for these softwares on Mac and I don't get even a discount in the price. I was expecting some kind of upgrade option.

Sure.. who's gonna pay for updates? I don't understand how people on HN can devalue their own profession. By your reasoning, once an application has been released, you're out of a job. Oh hey.. isn't that the current market!

Not all software requires babying and constant updates. These already work for most people and most use cases.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by JPws_Prntr_Fngr »

bookaway wrote: post #124

Am I the only one that finds the process of getting files of a decent size from non-Apple devices to Apple mobile devices incredibly frustrating, almost enough to be a deal breaker? What is the current best practice for the fastest way to get video files on an IPad as of now?

It is inexcusably obnoxious to do without iCloud, thanks to iOS' hamstrung file system & APIs, plus lightning being stuck on USB 2.0 speeds. But I think this is why the iPad Pro is on USB-C now: so you can hook up an external hard drive with all your bigass files.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by lostgame »

DamnInteresting wrote: post #184
bookaway wrote: post #124

Am I the only one that finds the process of getting files of a decent size from non-Apple devices to Apple mobile devices incredibly frustrating, almost enough to be a deal breaker? What is the current best practice for the fastest way to get video files on an IPad as of now?

It's not just non-Apple devices. I use my iPad to make music and sketches, and sometimes I need to move files between my iPad and MacBook. Airdrop almost never works, and transferring in the Files app is confusing--sometimes the file won't appear in the relevant app, or sometimes it appears twice, and it's not clear which is the newer version. I often resort to emailing the files back and forth to myself as attachmen…

AirDrop is - by far and large, especially in the Apple ecosystem - the single most unreliable, almost guaranteed-not-to-work piece of software I’ve used.

It works - for me - with any combination of Macs; old or new, desktop or laptop, on any given network configuration; in any location - about 3 or 4 out of ten times I give it a shot.

It’s honestly baffling to me how Apple has for more than a decade shipped a major feature that works easily less than half the time in my experience and my co-workers. Coworkers and I mostly completely avoid it at this point; and if we do actually give it a try, it feels more like praying to a God for rain than actually trying to use a piece of software.

I really have to wonder what has made it just so, brutally; unusably broken, for more than a decade.

I just guess nobody at Apple cares?

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by hammyhavoc »

jonhohle wrote: post #172
ericzawo wrote: post #156

A subscription for Logic is nuts. It's already $300 software for the Mac. I would be fine paying another one-time fee if it meant I had it forever on my iPad. It really is stellar software, as evidenced by it's two-decade presence in the industry, but to move to subscription feels very... un-Apple (at least in this Professional Media Software context).

iPads have an archival problem already, and this just exacerbated it. If I’m a studio and want to throw a project into a vault somewhere with hopes of retrieving it in a decade, the iPadOS/iOS software model makes it impossible to get back to a specific configuration without freezing a specific device. Now throwing a subscriptionmm no on top of it, this is at best good for throw away projects that are done, pushed ou…

Film and TV scores in Logic from the early '00s regularly get opened for sequels, prequels, interquels, reboots, remasters et al. I don't use Logic anymore, but when I did, that's one of the things that impressed me.

Logic on iOS? Could be an entirely different story as it relies on other apps as plugins that may change. Just to err on the side of caution, assume that if it isn't saved as audio or MIDI, you'll probably be screwed.

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