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US on track to set record in 2023 for mass killings after series of shootings

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Re: US on track to set record in 2023 for mass killings after series of shootings

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post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't need a conspiracy theory to explain why there's a murder problem in a country with a boatload of guns, lax restrictions on violent media, and a culture where infringing on someone's right to do anything can be interpreted as "totalitarian". No foreign influence required.

The “foreign influence” part is when mass shootings are a fraction of a fraction of the deaths, yet 50% of the news coverage. Media publishes sensational pieces about what consumers demand - consumer demand is increasingly driven by online discourse, which is free to manipulate easily. The best kind of misinformation is misinformation that is true but not representative of the real situation. Have you checked our hea…

"The “foreign influence” part is when mass shootings are a fraction of a fraction of the deaths, yet 50% of the news coverage."

Not foreign influence, but simply that fear and outrage sells.

Re: US on track to set record in 2023 for mass killings after series of shootings

#43
post #18

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We've become the terrorists we feared in the 2000s.

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Looking through the list of the most recent ones, I’m having trouble finding any white nationalists

Re: US on track to set record in 2023 for mass killings after series of shootings

#44
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Cat's out of the bag on this one. You will never get all the guns back, not without running a very real risk of instigating civil war. Ms. Jackson Lee thinks the real cause of the problem is "guns, guns, guns" - I say it's criminals, criminals, criminals. Why's Texas have so many criminals willing to use firearms for evil?

It doesn't seem like criminals per se (apart from murders by highly organized crime), but rather people with severe mental health problems. Mental health problems that are seemingly due to mainlining social media memes telling them everyone is out to get them, which have been given a pass due to standing in for real political discourse. For example by the time someone is answering their front door with a gun and pointing it at whomever is there, it's clear that person is suffering from a paranoia that should make them ineligible to possess firearms. And this should be policed by other gun owners! But it's been drawn into this culture war where if we admit that Crazy Bob perhaps shouldn't have guns, then the "liberals" win or whatever.

Re: US on track to set record in 2023 for mass killings after series of shootings

#45
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I can't put my finger on it precisely, but it feels like there are outside influences radicalizing people via social media with an ultimate goal of destabilizing the United States.

100% I'm surprised this isn't more obvious to others. The media certainly isn't helping the situation either.

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Re: US on track to set record in 2023 for mass killings after series of shootings

#46

More and more it seems the country is too corrupt to fix this problem. When will Americans realize they are not living in a democracy?

We are living in a democracy. There is a significant portion of the population that does not want any movement on gun control. I understand most Americans agree that we need some type of background checks and other common sense restrictions in place, but the hesitation to implement this is largely because of the extreme faction, and honestly the gun control that there is broad support to pass wouldn't fix the problem anyway.

Re: US on track to set record in 2023 for mass killings after series of shootings

#47
post #2

I can't put my finger on it precisely, but it feels like there are outside influences radicalizing people via social media with an ultimate goal of destabilizing the United States.

Or maybe American corporations amplified American problems while chasing money like usual, and then problems present themselves based on American realities.

No need to look for external causes, although blaming external actors also aligns with American historical actions.

Re: US on track to set record in 2023 for mass killings after series of shootings

#48
post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The “foreign influence” part is when mass shootings are a fraction of a fraction of the deaths, yet 50% of the news coverage. Media publishes sensational pieces about what consumers demand - consumer demand is increasingly driven by online discourse, which is free to manipulate easily. The best kind of misinformation is misinformation that is true but not representative of the real situation. Have you checked our hea…

"The “foreign influence” part is when mass shootings are a fraction of a fraction of the deaths, yet 50% of the news coverage." Not foreign influence, but simply that fear and outrage sells.

Why not both? They have the ability to make social media accounts and assist these fearful and outrages narratives, and they have the motive.

I.e. they are 100%, without a doubt, doing just that

Re: US on track to set record in 2023 for mass killings after series of shootings

#49
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I can't put my finger on it precisely, but it feels like there are outside influences radicalizing people via social media with an ultimate goal of destabilizing the United States.

Occam's Razor: It's the guns.

All else being equal my ass.

Re: US on track to set record in 2023 for mass killings after series of shootings

#50

Why do posts like this get flagged? Are Americans not allowed to talk about their violent culture on HN?

I assume it gets flagged because because it's off-topic and not a new phenomenon. You see the same arguments/comments/flames on every post that comes through here. At least if it was about some new proposed system, fundamentally new analaysis/data/tech, then it would be on-topic.
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