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US on track to set record in 2023 for mass killings after series of shootings

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Re: US on track to set record in 2023 for mass killings after series of shootings

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Cat's out of the bag on this one. You will never get all the guns back, not without running a very real risk of instigating civil war. Ms. Jackson Lee thinks the real cause of the problem is "guns, guns, guns" - I say it's criminals, criminals, criminals. Why's Texas have so many criminals willing to use firearms for evil?

Its the fomentation of hate, fear, and protracted power struggles.

Re: US on track to set record in 2023 for mass killings after series of shootings

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I can't put my finger on it precisely, but it feels like there are outside influences radicalizing people via social media with an ultimate goal of destabilizing the United States.

Occam's Razor: It's the guns.

That isn’t what Occams Razor means.

Re: US on track to set record in 2023 for mass killings after series of shootings

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The good news is that guns are made of metal and metal rusts. So outlaw the military weapons and replacement parts and wait.

Clearly, the technology for making things out of ...ferrous metals...is beyond the ken of ...Americans.

So we get manufacturing back in the US. Win-win!

Re: US on track to set record in 2023 for mass killings after series of shootings

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I can't put my finger on it precisely, but it feels like there are outside influences radicalizing people via social media with an ultimate goal of destabilizing the United States.

You don't need a conspiracy theory to explain why there's a murder problem in a country with a boatload of guns, lax restrictions on violent media, and a culture where infringing on someone's right to do anything can be interpreted as "totalitarian".

No foreign influence required.

Re: US on track to set record in 2023 for mass killings after series of shootings

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post #3

Cat's out of the bag on this one. You will never get all the guns back, not without running a very real risk of instigating civil war. Ms. Jackson Lee thinks the real cause of the problem is "guns, guns, guns" - I say it's criminals, criminals, criminals. Why's Texas have so many criminals willing to use firearms for evil?

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Re: US on track to set record in 2023 for mass killings after series of shootings

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post #26
post #2

I can't put my finger on it precisely, but it feels like there are outside influences radicalizing people via social media with an ultimate goal of destabilizing the United States.

You don't need a conspiracy theory to explain why there's a murder problem in a country with a boatload of guns, lax restrictions on violent media, and a culture where infringing on someone's right to do anything can be interpreted as "totalitarian". No foreign influence required.

The “foreign influence” part is when mass shootings are a fraction of a fraction of the deaths, yet 50% of the news coverage. Media publishes sensational pieces about what consumers demand - consumer demand is increasingly driven by online discourse, which is free to manipulate easily.

The best kind of misinformation is misinformation that is true but not representative of the real situation. Have you checked our heart disease deaths? It is *factually* an issue many orders of magnitude more important to the average American. And yet…zero discussion seems to happen about it online?

And why wouldn’t there be foreign influence? It’s quite an easy checklist:

* do Russia and China have the technical capability to make social media accounts and post in English?: Yes, obviously.

* do Russia and China have any motive to drive fearful divisive narratives in the US?: Yes - we are their primary geopolitical opponent

With both of these true, to assume they’re not doing it for some reason out of kindness requires a lot of mental gymnastics.

Re: US on track to set record in 2023 for mass killings after series of shootings

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post #3

Cat's out of the bag on this one. You will never get all the guns back, not without running a very real risk of instigating civil war. Ms. Jackson Lee thinks the real cause of the problem is "guns, guns, guns" - I say it's criminals, criminals, criminals. Why's Texas have so many criminals willing to use firearms for evil?

The good news is that guns are made of metal and metal rusts. So outlaw the military weapons and replacement parts and wait.

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/does-individual-need-license...

https://www.nps.gov/spar/learn/historyculture/making-guns.ht...

https://interestingengineering.com/video/guns-factory

Re: US on track to set record in 2023 for mass killings after series of shootings

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They don't need to be "outside" influences. We're totally capable of radicalizing ourselves domestically.

We've become the terrorists we feared in the 2000s.

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