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Re: GitHub code search is generally available

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Post by grammarxcore »

capableweb wrote: post #99
tester756 wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"monopoly on developer ecosystem" GitHub? fair OpenAI? how is this a part of dev. ecosystem? Vs Code? wtf? there's a lot of other IDEs/editors and many would argue that they are better >embrace, extend, extinguish strategy with WSL They are EEEing their product - Windows?

> > embrace, extend, extinguish strategy with WSL > They are EEEing their product - Windows? No, Linux obviously. First they like and integrate Linux into their own products. Azure, WSL and others. Then, they provide extensions that are closed-source on top of those. With the goal to extinguish the original project so they have more control over the direction.

WSL has been out for at least five years now and it’s still just a fancy kernel adapter without feature parity. I might begin to worry once things like containers actually work properly. Until then, I don’t think Microsoft has fully embraced Linux much less extended it.

I did just now learn that systemd was finally added to WSL. Originally that was never going to be added and back in the days of WSL 1 I remember the WSL writing blog posts about that being ridiculous. Who knows, proper container support might be added soon.

Re: GitHub code search is generally available

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Post by asherah »

lolinder wrote: post #121
Klonoar wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your particular individual experience is not representative of the overall reach that Microsoft has, which is what OP is pointing out. GitHub is the defacto "point" of software these days, with most devs jumping to that before anything else. VSCode is the highest ranked editor from the StackOverflow 2023 survey, with (IIRC) something akin to 70%. Azure is the icing on the cake, because now you have an entire generati…

2023 isn't live yet, but 74% of respondents used VSCode in 2022[0]. That said, the numbers are hard to compare because they allow selecting multiple choices and they split the JetBrains products up, while VSCode is considered as one tool. If you add together all the JetBrains products they reach 94%. I expect there's a ton of overlap that brings that number back down, but it's enough to make me suspect that VSCode's…

you can do one better: imagine those developers writing typescript frontends for asp.net backends!

Re: GitHub code search is generally available

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Post by ipaddr »

VirusNewbie wrote: post #98
tester756 wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"monopoly on developer ecosystem" GitHub? fair OpenAI? how is this a part of dev. ecosystem? Vs Code? wtf? there's a lot of other IDEs/editors and many would argue that they are better >embrace, extend, extinguish strategy with WSL They are EEEing their product - Windows?

I mean google uses VSCode internally as their officially supported IDE… i’d say they’re doing pretty well.

Because of products created before VSCode

Re: GitHub code search is generally available

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Post by oweiler »

ren_engineer wrote: post #23

Surprised more people aren't talking about how Microsoft has a near monopoly on the developer ecosystem. They've got GitHub, OpenAI, and VS Code all working together and collecting data that strengthen each other's products while also using their embrace, extend, extinguish strategy with WSL and all of these steer people towards Azure services whenever possible. Seems like something that verges on an anti-trust situa…

Don't forget Teams, which seems to be killing every other Chat/Video platform in the enterprise sector.

Re: GitHub code search is generally available

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Post by lionkor »

aetherane wrote: post #95
jacobr1 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you tried the new search that was just launched? It seems to have significantly improved search accuracy. I agree the old version wasn't that great (though still was one of the better options for finding usage of things in the wild like rarely used OSS dependencies I needed to debug).

I was in the beta, which im assuming was the same. I find it sometimes misses references in the same folder as the file I'm look at when I do reference search.

Same experience here - if the file is long enough, it doesnt find symbols at the end sometimes.

Re: GitHub code search is generally available

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Post by pxc »

grammarxcore wrote: post #131
capableweb wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> > embrace, extend, extinguish strategy with WSL > They are EEEing their product - Windows? No, Linux obviously. First they like and integrate Linux into their own products. Azure, WSL and others. Then, they provide extensions that are closed-source on top of those. With the goal to extinguish the original project so they have more control over the direction.

WSL has been out for at least five years now and it’s still just a fancy kernel adapter without feature parity. I might begin to worry once things like containers actually work properly. Until then, I don’t think Microsoft has fully embraced Linux much less extended it. I did just now learn that systemd was finally added to WSL. Originally that was never going to be added and back in the days of WSL 1 I remember the…

Containers do work in WSL2, although you hit Hyper-V bugs if you spin up very many of them. WSL2 is the basis of Docker Desktop and similar apps.

Microsoft has also already added proprietary extensions to WSL2, like the integration with the VSCode remote development plugin and DirectX passthrough for machine learning and maybe other things (there's a DirectX driver on Linux which is usable only on WSL guests).

Re: GitHub code search is generally available

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Post by dunk010 »

ren_engineer wrote: post #23

Surprised more people aren't talking about how Microsoft has a near monopoly on the developer ecosystem. They've got GitHub, OpenAI, and VS Code all working together and collecting data that strengthen each other's products while also using their embrace, extend, extinguish strategy with WSL and all of these steer people towards Azure services whenever possible. Seems like something that verges on an anti-trust situa…

I had the same realisation. Also remember they’ve extended JavaScript with Typescript, and built LSP. It does indeed feel like they are eating the whole of software.

Re: GitHub code search is generally available

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Post by hddqsb »

AtNightWeCode wrote: post #25

How do one access the new search?

I think you have to visit https://github.com/search, type a query (use /.../ for a regex, and repo:... to filter by repo), then click "Code" in the left navigation bar (and sign in). The search box on project pages appears to use the old search.

Re: GitHub code search is generally available

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Post by wickedsickeune »

dunk010 wrote: post #138
ren_engineer wrote: post #23

Surprised more people aren't talking about how Microsoft has a near monopoly on the developer ecosystem. They've got GitHub, OpenAI, and VS Code all working together and collecting data that strengthen each other's products while also using their embrace, extend, extinguish strategy with WSL and all of these steer people towards Azure services whenever possible. Seems like something that verges on an anti-trust situa…

I had the same realisation. Also remember they’ve extended JavaScript with Typescript, and built LSP. It does indeed feel like they are eating the whole of software.

Aren't those FOSS?
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