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Texas moves to create gold-backed digital currency

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Re: Texas moves to create gold-backed digital currency

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IANAL, but doesn't Article I, Section 10 of the US Constitution[0] bar Texas from creating such a currency? [0] https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S10-C1-2...

> No State shall .. make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts

  the legislators are looking to require the state comptroller to establish a digital currency that is fully backed by gold and fully redeemable in cash or gold.
The U.S. UCC (Uniform Commercial Code) was modified in July 2022 to recognize CERs (controllable electronic records), a flexible definition that may encompass current and future digital currencies. It's now up to individual U.S. states to ratify the proposed UCC changes in state legislation, https://www.clearygottlieb.com//news-and-insights/publicatio...

> Control under Article 12 is designed to be a technology-neutral functional equivalent of “possession.” It generally encompasses circumstances when a party has the “private key” or other mechanism to avail itself of substantially all of the benefits of the record, prevent others from availing themselves of such benefits, and transfer the record and associated benefits.

Re: Texas moves to create gold-backed digital currency

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What's the motive behind wanting deflationary currency? Just a few minutes' reflection should convince you that's a very bad idea for any free market, capitalist economy.

Goldbugs like deflation. Goldbugs like gold. Practical economic usefulness is not a consideration.

I suspect there are three flavours of gold bugs:

1) Wealthy + Paranoid + Stupid. They'd rather keep their money in sovereigns under their mattress, than put it into any sort of productive economic activity. On a long term, especially in the US, you could pretty much throw darts and build a portfolio that competes with, or beats, inflation.

2) Conspirational: "fiat currency is a grand scheme to undermine our savings for (insert nefarious bugaboo of the day)"

3) Arguably a subset of 2) but Apocalypse Enthusiast. "When civilization crumbles, the obvious trade unit won't be something like grain, alcohol, or bullets, but my bags full of low-grade silver dimes! I'll be King of the Wasteland!"

Re: Texas moves to create gold-backed digital currency

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What's the motive behind wanting deflationary currency? Just a few minutes' reflection should convince you that's a very bad idea for any free market, capitalist economy.

People want to get rich even if that means killing every incentive for productive use of capital in the process.

Re: Texas moves to create gold-backed digital currency

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> When someone holding the digital currency wants to redeem it for cash, all they would need to do is present it to the comptroller or a designated agent, who will then sell gold held in the depository account equal to the redemption amount and transfer the funds to the redeemer, minus any fees.

> The value of each unit of the digital currency will be determined at the time of a transaction and “must be equal to the value of the appropriate fraction of a troy ounce of gold at the time of that transaction.”

If this were actually put into effect, expect intense interest from current long-term owners of gold ETFs e.g. GLD. GLD steadily declines relative to spot bullion, as a means of charging to holders expenses of storage, security and management. The Texas proposal would apparently cover such costs entirely with fees on exchange transactions, making long-term holders something like free riders on the system.

Re: Texas moves to create gold-backed digital currency

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Goldbugs like deflation. Goldbugs like gold. Practical economic usefulness is not a consideration.

I suspect there are three flavours of gold bugs: 1) Wealthy + Paranoid + Stupid. They'd rather keep their money in sovereigns under their mattress, than put it into any sort of productive economic activity. On a long term, especially in the US, you could pretty much throw darts and build a portfolio that competes with, or beats, inflation. 2) Conspirational: "fiat currency is a grand scheme to undermine our savings f…

Couldn't we bifurcate it, though?

I mean, I'm fucked. I've effectively lost between 10-20% of my purchasing power out of what ultimately equates to a relatively small sum in the first place because my time horizon was pretty small, I put a trust fund together for myself. Whole I was doing this bond yields were negative, and had been for a long while, and I'd posit they still are (last I looked the $1 pound loaves at Walmart were $1.50). I just did not and do not have the buffer money for investing, not to mention a need for liquidity and possible penalties. It would be nice to have something more stable. Of course, Au and Ag haven't yet reared their imaginary powers yet in any case, though many portend they will.

Ideally though, an ounce of gold is an ounce. But a dollar can be anything. The question is one of making gold, silver, or some other fixed-quantity, portable, arbitrarily valuable substance into legal tender, right?

Re: Texas moves to create gold-backed digital currency

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> When someone holding the digital currency wants to redeem it for cash, all they would need to do is present it to the comptroller or a designated agent, who will then sell gold held in the depository account equal to the redemption amount and transfer the funds to the redeemer, minus any fees. > The value of each unit of the digital currency will be determined at the time of a transaction and “must be equal to the…

There are existing coins like PAX Gold worth looking at as well.

Re: Texas moves to create gold-backed digital currency

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Goldbugs like deflation. Goldbugs like gold. Practical economic usefulness is not a consideration.

I suspect there are three flavours of gold bugs: 1) Wealthy + Paranoid + Stupid. They'd rather keep their money in sovereigns under their mattress, than put it into any sort of productive economic activity. On a long term, especially in the US, you could pretty much throw darts and build a portfolio that competes with, or beats, inflation. 2) Conspirational: "fiat currency is a grand scheme to undermine our savings f…

Gold coins are beautiful liquid assets. Why not keep part of your retirement or emergency fund in gold and silver? I can just go down to one of many local coin stores and sell them if I need the cash.

Re: Texas moves to create gold-backed digital currency

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I hope they use an existing, leading-edge project. There are some very advanced and capable cryptocurrencies. Or Ethereum which is catching up and would be amazing.

It seems like the US would just try to block something like this on principle though. Having your own currency puts you in competition with other countries, doesn't it? And that's not part of the concept of a (US) state.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_secession_movements

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