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Re: Google appears to be scaling up the ads it shows to Gmail users

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Marissa mayer?

The logical step would be Marissa.ai. Google is so deep in AI and Google-Scale optimization, automating their management with an AI including the CEO, should just be a matter of time.

Great idea! Marissa.ai would have 2 tasks:

- redesigning Google logo

- buying a failing social network

Pretty easy to build I would think.

Re: Google appears to be scaling up the ads it shows to Gmail users

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Google now seems deep into the enshittification [1] process. Of all the big tech companies, they seemed the most customer-friendly, the least constrained by the need to optimize their money hose. But I guess the economic logic of tying executive compensation to short-term share price simply overwhelmed other considerations. The stock must go up, so revenues must grow, so Google must monetize everything to the maximum…

> But I guess now it's time to start looking at different email providers. Already moved to Proton personally, I was OK with Google G-Suite or whatever the hell it's called these days when it was free, because I was trading my data for a pretty good service, but then they wanted to slap a price tag on it simply because they could, and to me that was a clear signal it was time to get out. I'm not paying for Google to…

I wanted to like Proton, even paid for it, but their apps are _bad_. I switched over to Fastmail after a year.

Re: Google appears to be scaling up the ads it shows to Gmail users

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Google now seems deep into the enshittification [1] process. Of all the big tech companies, they seemed the most customer-friendly, the least constrained by the need to optimize their money hose. But I guess the economic logic of tying executive compensation to short-term share price simply overwhelmed other considerations. The stock must go up, so revenues must grow, so Google must monetize everything to the maximum…

I was shocked the last time I used Google without an adblocker. The first 4-5 search results were ads. I had to scroll to get to the first actual result. There also seems to be less effort to distinguish ads from regular links. I wonder which genius adsense manager thought "hey we could double our revenue if we show 4 ads instead of 2, user experience be damned".

I find it darkly amusing that the first five ad results are usually the same as the first five “natural” results. Which I click on depends on if if I hate them more than google.

Re: Google appears to be scaling up the ads it shows to Gmail users

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I had the same realisation. At this point, YouTube Premium is probably the subscription I would give up last. Premium is (for now) quite a nice experience, and there is so much nerdy niche content that would never get made commercially, certainly not to the same scale. I have noticed that my recommendations seem to be getting worse lately, but unsure if that's a flaw in the algorithm or because I've spent years drain…

Out of curiosity, what does Premium do for you that is a positive? This is an earnest question, as recently my old Android phone died and I got a new iPhone. On Android, I'd just use Newpipe[0] which I absolutely loved; they kept up with Youtube's breaking changes (usually a day-of debug build until the fix reached the main release), and it was such a nice and out of the way music player with everything you could wan…

ydant pretty much took the words out of my mouth.

Just because I technically could get something equivalent for free, doesn’t mean I necessarily want to.

I’m fortunate enough that the monthly subscription isn’t exactly breaking the bank, so it’s a good way to support the content I enjoy, and is more realistic and affordable than subscribing to dozens of Patreons.

I also do the majority of my viewing on my TV via Apple TV (and previously the built in TV apps), so the options for third party alternatives are very limited even if the above were not the case.

Re: Google appears to be scaling up the ads it shows to Gmail users

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post #59

Google's products do seem to be getting progressively shittier, in profound and confusing ways. take their home assistant, which used to be able to find information online and compose an answer to your natural langauges queries. Now she just says "I don't know, but I found this online..." Google Search seems to be getting truly terrible. Results completely unrelated to what I'm looking for are placing in the first pa…

>Holding the power button no longer turns off your phone, but instead opens voice assistant(?!)

I've got an up-to-date Pixel 6 and this is not true. Hold the power button, and I'm presented with options for powering off, restarting, making an emergency call and "Lockdown".

Re: Google appears to be scaling up the ads it shows to Gmail users

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I've been so happy moving my email to iCloud. It isn't perfect or anything, but it's nice having email that's just boring IMAP. Apple takes my $1 each month for custom domain support and 50GB of storage and I get their hide-my-email service.

I moved all vital email for financials, banks, etc., to iCloud and leave the dross in GMail nowadays. Given that folk are lock out of GMail for breathing the wrong air, it's in your best interests to protect yourself from Google going rogue.

Re: Google appears to be scaling up the ads it shows to Gmail users

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You're right and the problem is that I can't think of any product from Google for the last 10 years that had the same effect.

Can you think of any product from any company in the past ten years that has made you feel that way?

I'm really impressed by free web apps like figma! It almost feels like a native app due to their use of WASM.

Re: Google appears to be scaling up the ads it shows to Gmail users

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Part (and I do mean part) of the explanation is that people’s expectations around peer group and lifestyle changes. He’s probabaly looking at Larry Ellison and feeling poor, and that he needs to have (make up a number) $1b in the bank to support his lifestyle (planes, houses, hobbies, philanthropic giving, etc.). I bet if you asked in 2004 (pre-google) what the comparable number was, it was like $20-40m…

What type of lifestyle does $1 billion make available that is not already affordable with $200 million?

You’ve already missed the point - it doesn’t matter. It’s that peoples’ expectations change.

(Yes there are diminishing marginal returns etc., but once you’re used to X, 50% of X feels painful, even if 50% of X is still an extremely luxurious lifestyle)

Re: Google appears to be scaling up the ads it shows to Gmail users

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post #59

Google's products do seem to be getting progressively shittier, in profound and confusing ways. take their home assistant, which used to be able to find information online and compose an answer to your natural langauges queries. Now she just says "I don't know, but I found this online..." Google Search seems to be getting truly terrible. Results completely unrelated to what I'm looking for are placing in the first pa…

>Holding the power button no longer turns off your phone, but instead opens voice assistant(?!) I've got an up-to-date Pixel 6 and this is not true. Hold the power button, and I'm presented with options for powering off, restarting, making an emergency call and "Lockdown".

I'm on Pixel 6a I can confirm that holding the button triggers the assistant. I'd like to mention I think what triggered this behavior is me getting a pair of pixel buds.

Re: Google appears to be scaling up the ads it shows to Gmail users

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post #59

Google's products do seem to be getting progressively shittier, in profound and confusing ways. take their home assistant, which used to be able to find information online and compose an answer to your natural langauges queries. Now she just says "I don't know, but I found this online..." Google Search seems to be getting truly terrible. Results completely unrelated to what I'm looking for are placing in the first pa…

>Holding the power button no longer turns off your phone, but instead opens voice assistant(?!) I've got an up-to-date Pixel 6 and this is not true. Hold the power button, and I'm presented with options for powering off, restarting, making an emergency call and "Lockdown".

This is configurable behavior: https://seekingtech.com/how-to-make-the-power-button-open-th...
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