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A cryptocurrency company had a $65M bill, per Datadog’s Q1 earnings call

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Re: A cryptocurrency company had a $65M bill, per Datadog’s Q1 earnings call

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post #127

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Datadog costs more to monitor your AWS t3.medium instance than the actual instance. I asked them how them can justify that. They recommended I use "modern infrastructure" which means Docker.

Was Datadog pricing per-host? If so, then I guess running a Kubernetes cluster using the biggest available instances is the most "modern" solution to Datadog-using infrastructure.

Per host and/or per container

Re: A cryptocurrency company had a $65M bill, per Datadog’s Q1 earnings call

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Datadog prices are out of this world. I assumed their front facing prices were for the lone dev, so when I reached out as a company looking to integrate multiple of their products I expected a deal, and got very little compromise. I told them up front they were going to have to cut prices by 90% for us to consider them -- no budge. And they are pretty belligerent salesman, not wanting to leave me alone. After a while…

Datadog costs more to monitor your AWS t3.medium instance than the actual instance. I asked them how them can justify that. They recommended I use "modern infrastructure" which means Docker.

Sounds like New Relic 2.0

Re: A cryptocurrency company had a $65M bill, per Datadog’s Q1 earnings call

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Just wait until they find your personal cell phone number and try to force you into scheduling a "time that works" on the calendar.

Just keep scheduling a time that works, and then don't show up.

Back in the days when this kind of thing happened on the telephone, the SERIOUSLY passive aggressive trick was to talk to them, and then hang up on yourself. Repeatedly.

"Hi this is Arnie from CHewemup'n'Spitemout Staffing, is this Bob?"

"Hey Arnie, what perfect timing! I just started looking for a new opportunity, and I'm really excited to— CLICK."

Ring ring.

"This is Arnie, we seem to have been cut off."

"Oh Arnie, right, thought you hung up on me."

"No, not me, must be a bad connection. You were saying?"

"Yes, I was saying this is a great time to talk about opportunities. I just finished a major Java Enterprise JavaBeans project, and I'm— CLICK."

Lather, rinse, repeat, as the meme used to go before we called them memes.

Re: A cryptocurrency company had a $65M bill, per Datadog’s Q1 earnings call

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post #94

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Just wait until they find your personal cell phone number and try to force you into scheduling a "time that works" on the calendar.

Just wait until they find your wife's phone number. (OK, this wasn't datadog, but some similarly aggressive headhunting agency went from calling me to calling my wife - who is in no way affiliated with my company - to ask her if she could tell me about how they could help me in hiring, yadda yadda.)

I had something similar happen with a Facebook recruiter. I didn't reply to her first two emails so she started emailing my mom to try to get in touch with me. My mom called me because she thought it was a phishing email. I had never had that happen before.

Re: A cryptocurrency company had a $65M bill, per Datadog’s Q1 earnings call

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I worked at Coinbase until very recently and can confirm this is Coinbase They paid upfront for 3 years of usage, and yes they were burning > $20m/year on datadog

Back in the day I was auditing our support contracts for a place that I worked at. Basically figuring out if we were getting what we were paying for.

My favorite "overpriced support contract" was for an Oracle product. The cost of support was seven figures, and in the entire year a single phone call had been placed to support.

Re: A cryptocurrency company had a $65M bill, per Datadog’s Q1 earnings call

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post #127

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Was Datadog pricing per-host? If so, then I guess running a Kubernetes cluster using the biggest available instances is the most "modern" solution to Datadog-using infrastructure.

It is mainly per host $15 or $23 PCM with the first 5-10 containers free then $0.002 per hour (~$1.5 PCM) per container. The insight and stats you get are quite granular and valuable however. For large scale deployments you can ignore certain containers etc.

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Re: A cryptocurrency company had a $65M bill, per Datadog’s Q1 earnings call

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I worked at Coinbase until very recently and can confirm this is Coinbase They paid upfront for 3 years of usage, and yes they were burning > $20m/year on datadog

So you’re saying it’s $65 million over three years? The headline seems misleading, like it’s for a single month.

yes but 20 million dollars a year.

20 fucking million

getting splunk with 1pb a month ingest isnt that expensive.

Re: A cryptocurrency company had a $65M bill, per Datadog’s Q1 earnings call

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post #93

Datadog prices are out of this world. I assumed their front facing prices were for the lone dev, so when I reached out as a company looking to integrate multiple of their products I expected a deal, and got very little compromise. I told them up front they were going to have to cut prices by 90% for us to consider them -- no budge. And they are pretty belligerent salesman, not wanting to leave me alone. After a while…

Datadog startup journey from my perspective: 1. use Datadog, because it gets you a bunch of stuff without having to really set it up, like anomaly detection, which is poor man's monitoring & alerting 2. once you start getting product-market fit and the number of instances you run grows you notice your monthly bill going crazier and crazier and you now have something that starts to resemble an ops team -> migrate to a…

Right, the monitoring cost with datadog of my little business would be 7 figures (and revenue is only 7 figures!!) I mean, I guess they want to exclude people like me.. but then why market to me?

Re: A cryptocurrency company had a $65M bill, per Datadog’s Q1 earnings call

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Having never heard of datadog, Wikipedia’s summary is: > Datadog is an observability service for cloud-scale applications, providing monitoring of servers, databases, tools, and services, through a SaaS-based data analytics platform. So it checks if your servers have crashed or slowed down with a nice dashboard? Any better summaries or descriptions of what it does and how coinbase would have used it?

Datadog from when I was looking at them (2017ish) appeared to be an automatic version of nagios with a nice user interface and super simple client side installer.

But it was super tied to VMs at that point, and we were running a bunch of lambdas, herokus and docker instances, along with a shit tonne of AWS services, and java lumps from the 90s

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