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The Vietnamese military has an actual troll army and Facebook is its weapon

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Re: The Vietnamese military has an actual troll army and Facebook is its weapon

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So Facebook is complicit in allowing its platform to be weaponized by the state against all speakers of Vietnamese (in and outside of the country). When questioned, they simply shrug their shoulders and say "if we did anything to stop this, our platform would be banned in Vietnam." I'm beyond the point of expecting anything more from Facebook, but I would think the US government should have some leverage here. Vietna…

Does Facebook have rules that are consistently applied to every country? AFAIK, Facebook complies with the local governments' requirements everywhere it operates even though they will occasionally publicize some resistance.

Re: The Vietnamese military has an actual troll army and Facebook is its weapon

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The current President, youngest President ever in Vietnam, was the head of Central propaganda department [0], and I believe his achievement was integrating those censorship tools into the government usage (this is my wild guess, and absolutely not official info). An impressive feat, technological or otherwise, but naturally a bit unfortunate for Vietnamese. That said, the Viet Tan group is full of crap. They are not…

I thought Prez in Vietname is more or less powerless position. Real power lies in the Central Military Commision and Party General Secretary just like China.

Re: The Vietnamese military has an actual troll army and Facebook is its weapon

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Russia is known to have loads of trolls on the government payroll. I am under the impression that western governments don't do this but who knows...

The US has the 4th and 8th Psychological Operations Groups stationed at Ft. Bragg, and that’s just what’s acknowledged publicly.

The U.S. and the U.K., through their collective media empires, AKA Operation Mockingbird, control the most influential PSYOP armies in the world.

Re: The Vietnamese military has an actual troll army and Facebook is its weapon

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So Facebook is complicit in allowing its platform to be weaponized by the state against all speakers of Vietnamese (in and outside of the country). When questioned, they simply shrug their shoulders and say "if we did anything to stop this, our platform would be banned in Vietnam." I'm beyond the point of expecting anything more from Facebook, but I would think the US government should have some leverage here. Vietna…

Does Facebook have rules that are consistently applied to every country? AFAIK, Facebook complies with the local governments' requirements everywhere it operates even though they will occasionally publicize some resistance.

lol they fired heavily overseas so no. After 2018 90% of integrity work was focused on english.

Re: The Vietnamese military has an actual troll army and Facebook is its weapon

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post #13
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The current President, youngest President ever in Vietnam, was the head of Central propaganda department [0], and I believe his achievement was integrating those censorship tools into the government usage (this is my wild guess, and absolutely not official info). An impressive feat, technological or otherwise, but naturally a bit unfortunate for Vietnamese. That said, the Viet Tan group is full of crap. They are not…

I thought Prez in Vietname is more or less powerless position. Real power lies in the Central Military Commision and Party General Secretary just like China.

Party Secretary is #1 (always). Prime Minister and President is #2 and #3, with exact power ordering depends on the specific person in the role. Head of Congress is #4 with some distance with the other 3 roles.

Supposedly, the top 3 role has almost the same power and that was how we keep dictator in check. All three positions are in the Central Military Commission.

China uses a different system, they have a designated paramount leader who holds two roles: President and Party Secretary, Vietnam doesn’t want to do that and kinda spreads the power out.

Re: The Vietnamese military has an actual troll army and Facebook is its weapon

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post #8

So Facebook is complicit in allowing its platform to be weaponized by the state against all speakers of Vietnamese (in and outside of the country). When questioned, they simply shrug their shoulders and say "if we did anything to stop this, our platform would be banned in Vietnam." I'm beyond the point of expecting anything more from Facebook, but I would think the US government should have some leverage here. Vietna…

Does Facebook have rules that are consistently applied to every country? AFAIK, Facebook complies with the local governments' requirements everywhere it operates even though they will occasionally publicize some resistance.

There is no local law in Vietnam that says "you must allow the state's army of troll bots to harass anyone in the world that speaks Vietnamese".

Facebook isn't complying with any local law here, and the behaviour in question isn't isolated to users in Vietnam. They are turning a blind eye to avoid retaliation for applying the same rules they'd apply elsewhere.

Re: The Vietnamese military has an actual troll army and Facebook is its weapon

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So Facebook is complicit in allowing its platform to be weaponized by the state against all speakers of Vietnamese (in and outside of the country). When questioned, they simply shrug their shoulders and say "if we did anything to stop this, our platform would be banned in Vietnam." I'm beyond the point of expecting anything more from Facebook, but I would think the US government should have some leverage here. Vietna…

just scared to get their asses kicked by viets again

Re: The Vietnamese military has an actual troll army and Facebook is its weapon

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Just another ex-eastern block country cooking the same recipe. I still wonder, why all this state agent are allowed into the free net. They usually are not even allowed into the western internet, in china you cant even have a VPN without going to prison. So the normal citizen cant look at western internet, but the western internet allows those state agents to post undeclared content. Its like a trapdoor function rigged against freedom by now. Should just auto-ban all state-actors and affiliated from all social media.
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