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Re: Google appears to be scaling up the ads it shows to Gmail users

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Post by layer8 »

mdasen wrote: post #17

I've been so happy moving my email to iCloud. It isn't perfect or anything, but it's nice having email that's just boring IMAP. Apple takes my $1 each month for custom domain support and 50GB of storage and I get their hide-my-email service.

Just as a minor caveat, Gmail has an email size limit of 25 MB while iCloud Mail has a limit of only 20 MB. When moving an email archive from Gmail to iCloud, that difference can cause an issue for large (> 20 MB) emails, where you have to remove attachments or similar if you don’t want to lose those messages completely.

Re: Google appears to be scaling up the ads it shows to Gmail users

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Post by ChuckNorris89 »

nashashmi wrote: post #9
CoastalCoder wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honest question: why would you expect hate for using Yahoo mail?

It is terribly insecure. Leaked passwords. Random account access. Backdoor access for govt. I still use yahoo.

I think that was a long time ago. Now they have MFA and haven't had any public security incidents.

Re: Google appears to be scaling up the ads it shows to Gmail users

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Post by Spivak »

ProjectArcturis wrote: post #20

Google now seems deep into the enshittification [1] process. Of all the big tech companies, they seemed the most customer-friendly, the least constrained by the need to optimize their money hose. But I guess the economic logic of tying executive compensation to short-term share price simply overwhelmed other considerations. The stock must go up, so revenues must grow, so Google must monetize everything to the maximum…

> tying executive compensation to short-term share price

We won't get anything other than this unless Google decides to do a huge round of buybacks and go private. The spice must flow because only growth makes money for the people who actually own Google.

Re: Google appears to be scaling up the ads it shows to Gmail users

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Post by tombert »

Fundamentally I think I've put a line in the sand that I will just pay for things instead of being bombarded with advertisements. As a kid I didn't have any money and so I put up with ads, but now as a yuppie with plenty of cash, I feel it's better to not constantly be sold to.

I've been happy with Protonmail, they don't charge a prohibitive amount. Kagi is also ok. I wish there was a good alternative to YouTube, but sadly basically every YouTube competitor (e.g. Odysee, Bitchute) seems to just become a dumping ground for a bunch of neo-Nazi idiots, but at least YouTube does have YouTube premium, and I can skip through the sponsored ExpressVPN and Raycon ads.

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Post by gruez »

Spivak wrote: post #34
ProjectArcturis wrote: post #20

Google now seems deep into the enshittification [1] process. Of all the big tech companies, they seemed the most customer-friendly, the least constrained by the need to optimize their money hose. But I guess the economic logic of tying executive compensation to short-term share price simply overwhelmed other considerations. The stock must go up, so revenues must grow, so Google must monetize everything to the maximum…

> tying executive compensation to short-term share price We won't get anything other than this unless Google decides to do a huge round of buybacks and go private. The spice must flow because only growth makes money for the people who actually own Google.

>We won't get anything other than this unless Google decides to do a huge round of buybacks and go private. The spice must flow because only growth makes money for the people who actually own Google.

And after they go private why do you think they won't care about growth/money?

Re: Google appears to be scaling up the ads it shows to Gmail users

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Post by propogandist »

mtmail wrote: post #2

Related from 3 days ago "Gmail is showing ads in the middle of the inbox" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35829697

links out to a better article and writeup at-least, techradar is a bottom of the barrel content regurgitation outlet

https://9to5google.com/2023/05/05/gmail-ads-increase-2023/

Re: Google appears to be scaling up the ads it shows to Gmail users

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Post by thesuitonym »

whywhywhywhy wrote: post #29
thesuitonym wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Never gonna happen. If people get so upset that they start moving to other products, then we'll see MSFT and GOOG do what all belligerent companies do when they start losing eyeballs: Increase advertising on the remaining users until they, too, get fed up and leave, and eventually the companies wither and die away. Will that happen? Probably not, but it's more likely than either company realizing they're alienating t…

There are no other platforms though. Even Apple is cramming their apps with ads for their services. They’ve ad-walled me over 20 times in the last 18 months on the way to listen to my music with an Apple Music adwall. Just on my way to listen to MY mp3s.

While it's not an excuse, I guess I'll just say that the Apple Music app is not a necessary part of the OS.
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