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Google Analytics alternative that protects your data and your customers' privacy

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Re: Google Analytics alternative that protects your data and your customers' privacy

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post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ITP now also degrades first party server-set cookies to 7 days where the first part of the IPs don't match. So if you're using CNAMEs for your measurement and the you have a.a.x.x and b.b.x.x it will downgrade.

Link?

https://github.com/WebKit/WebKit/pull/5347

Re: Google Analytics alternative that protects your data and your customers' privacy

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post #80

Their usage of word "On-Premise" instead of "on prem" or "on premises"!!!

The terms on-premises and on-premise and on-prem are synonymous within enterprise lingo.

The one that grinds my gears is "bottoms up" instead of "bottom up."

Re: Google Analytics alternative that protects your data and your customers' privacy

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Rudderstack claims to be a GA alternative [1] and accepts server-side data allowing this to be a 1st party integration skipping the consent complexity. Any thoughts on this one? It also made it to the Thoughtworks Tech Radar [2].

[1] https://www.rudderstack.com/replace-google-analytics-4-guide... [2] https://www.thoughtworks.com/en-us/radar/platforms/ruddersta...

Re: Google Analytics alternative that protects your data and your customers' privacy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Matomo is decent, but my main issue with it is the performance when run at any sort of scale. It's PHP/MySQL, which is nice for ease of self-hosting, but it means a lot of things need to be pre-calculated. I've never actually run into performance issues, neither when using it in production professionally, nor for my self-hosted sites (with Matomo always running on-prem). I'd say the performance of PHP and MySQL/Mar…

The performance issues aren't with the measurement requests but with reporting. When I eval'd it for my book last fall there were big delays in reporting waiting for segments and then also issues with custom reports. I think they have changed the default behavior to get around some of the former, but with MySQL it's always going to be tough for larger queries. (if there's any performance issue on the measurement side…

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Re: Google Analytics alternative that protects your data and your customers' privacy

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post #63

A while back I built out a quick guide comparing all of these alternatives, because the core value prop was pretty similar and it was annoying to compare between pricing plans. (My personal vote goes to Fathom.) https://buttondown.email/comparison-guides/google-analytics-...

"GA's interface is complex and confusing, especially for basic use cases."

As I said in another comment, it's been eight years since I used that accursed interface, and I'll be ready to try it again once the flashbacks go away.

Re: Google Analytics alternative that protects your data and your customers' privacy

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> Google Analytics alternative that protects your data and your customers' privacy

It's not your data, this data about me.

> Your customers will love you because their valuable personal data is protected.

I guarantee you your customers will not love you for tracking them.

Re: Google Analytics alternative that protects your data and your customers' privacy

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post #47

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If I build a web site, and it is my preference to know what pages get clicks on what elements (presumably, so I can make my site better)... whose preference gets priority; mine or my users? It's not as black and white as your question makes it sound.

It kind of is black and white, from technology point of view. You, the website owner, can control what your server does in response to HTTP requests a client makes. You control what data is sent, and under what conditions you'll send that data (ie: presence of a valid session cookie, correct username/password, cryptographly signed request, etc). I, the user owning a computer, get to control what my computer does. I r…

Your response seems to completely miss the point of the thread you're replying to. The discussion in question was, effectively

>>> You can write your own code to gather statistics

>> You should respect your user's desires and not gather statistics

> The users aren't the only ones with desires

Sure, whether or not you "can" do it is black and white (and a game of whack-a-mole many times), but whether or not you "should" do it is very much a gray area.

Re: Google Analytics alternative that protects your data and your customers' privacy

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I'm using the matomo self hosted version and like it overall. I love you can track all outbound clicks without having to specifically add Dom elements to outbound links to make this possible. Unfortunately matomo is blocked just like Google Analytics by every ad/tracking blocker. Doesn't matter if you host it yourself and only track global stats vs tracking users across the web like GA does. The only solution seems t…

Is it also blocked when you don't even enable cookies? You loose some accuracy, but clients can't prevent ending up in your logs and they have to share some info with the server.

Re: Google Analytics alternative that protects your data and your customers' privacy

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post #63

A while back I built out a quick guide comparing all of these alternatives, because the core value prop was pretty similar and it was annoying to compare between pricing plans. (My personal vote goes to Fathom.) https://buttondown.email/comparison-guides/google-analytics-...

Last I checked, Fathom’s open source product hadn’t been updated for a couple of years. So, I switched to Plausible which is more reasonably updated.

How does Plausible compare to Google's Universal Analytics? And are there any SEO effects?

GA4 migration seems not aimed at general users, so I'm looking at alternatives. Ideally could import my data.

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