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Re: Contrast Rebellion

#91
why are people so obsessed with enforcing accesibility on every website, when its obvious that anyone who has a disability and prefers for example more contrast can implement system wide solutions.

Re: Contrast Rebellion

#93

I'm always amused by HackerNews being presented as this awful, unreadable, low-contrast atrocity, when it is the most user-friendly, easiest-to-read, most seamlessly customizable thing I access on literally any given day. That being said, yes; awful low-contrast sites exist. But it's not, hah, black and white. There's certainly such a thing as too high of a contrast - depending on the person, monitor, and background…

Try reading HN on an entry-level laptop with a crappy LCD display outdoors on a sunny day.

And that's before considering the fixed width.

Re: Contrast Rebellion

#94

It would be nice since they are advocating for readable text if the font sizes were appropriate on mobile. Even funnier is that lighthouse shows a multitude of accessibility problems in the page including.... low contrast. https://pagespeed.web.dev/analysis/https-contrastrebellion-c... Apparently the reason for the awful sizing on mobile is missing the responsive viewport meta tag... IDK, I agree with the content of…

I'm not sure why those sections were flagged for low contrast. Manually checking the contrast for those colors at https://webaim.org/resources/contrastchecker/ shows that they are all WCAG AAA compliant.

Re: Contrast Rebellion

#95
Sometimes a literal rebellion against company or project officers, with a formal mandate to axe an application or website's nicely legible interface - by "modernizing" it or making it more attractive/fashionable/whatever.

Re: Contrast Rebellion

#97

I'm always amused by HackerNews being presented as this awful, unreadable, low-contrast atrocity, when it is the most user-friendly, easiest-to-read, most seamlessly customizable thing I access on literally any given day. That being said, yes; awful low-contrast sites exist. But it's not, hah, black and white. There's certainly such a thing as too high of a contrast - depending on the person, monitor, and background…

That's more statement due to how terrible other sites are; for example's HN utterly fucking idiotic idea of making any "Show HN" posts text body light gray

Re: Contrast Rebellion

#98
post #36

It would be nice since they are advocating for readable text if the font sizes were appropriate on mobile. Even funnier is that lighthouse shows a multitude of accessibility problems in the page including.... low contrast. https://pagespeed.web.dev/analysis/https-contrastrebellion-c... Apparently the reason for the awful sizing on mobile is missing the responsive viewport meta tag... IDK, I agree with the content of…

It was written in 2011. Was that tag in regular use at that time? I have no idea.

For reference the iPhone 4 had already been released, so mobile design was already a thing. The viewport meta tag wasn't a thing though, or at least not widespread as HTML5 release spec was finalized by W3C in 2014.

I did not see that the website was this old when I first saw it. Still, I've used websites from the 90s that worked better on mobile lol (I also used websites in 2023 that were awful, to be fair).

Re: Contrast Rebellion

#99
post #20

Weirdly, this site uses `color: #1b1b1b` instead of black. Why? The difference is barely noticeable, but black provides more contrast and IMO looks better than #1b1b1b. I've seen many designers assert that being slightly off-black is "better" for some reason, but isn't this the same argument that eventually leads to low-contrast designs? Why is a little bit of contrast reduction good, but a lot is bad? Pure black alw…

The difference is probably more noticeable on OLED screens that have "true" black.

For personal themes I do use a bit of off black, althought usually it's something like very dark gray. It just makes screen not a complete black hole late at night

Re: Contrast Rebellion

#100
post #66

It would be nice since they are advocating for readable text if the font sizes were appropriate on mobile. Even funnier is that lighthouse shows a multitude of accessibility problems in the page including.... low contrast. https://pagespeed.web.dev/analysis/https-contrastrebellion-c... Apparently the reason for the awful sizing on mobile is missing the responsive viewport meta tag... IDK, I agree with the content of…

Well, the reason it shows "low contrast" on the page, is because the purpose of the page is to illustrate the low contrast problem. There are many sections that show the contrasting example of good contrast. What you're doing is running two virus scanners, and the second one finds the quarantine folder of the first one. You then claim the first antivirus is a virus. Nope. This was not a website designed for mobile -…

You believe some of these sections are _meant_ to be bad contrast, while others are meant to demo good contrast?

Which are which?

I can't understand exactly which sections the lighthouse report is flagging. I also thought I wasn't sure some of those sections were sufficient contrast, but all the ones I tested actually did pass WCAG contrast test.

If the web page has chosen to make some sections intentionally bad contrast but others good contrast, without telling you which are which... that is not the educational strategy I would have picked. But I'm not convinced it's doing that.

But you are?

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