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I'm never investing in Google's smart home ecosystem again

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Re: I'm never investing in Google's smart home ecosystem again

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Why would anyone have trusted Google on this in the first place? It’s such an obvious outcome I struggle to understand how anyone expected anything different. This is why we have open standards and interoperability. Imagine if you can only buy lamps from IKEA because your whole house has proprietary outlets. Who signs up for that?

People in the 60s: the government will wiretap your home.

People now: hey wire tap, can cats eat pancakes?

Re: I'm never investing in Google's smart home ecosystem again

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I feel like this is just one more thing that Google leadership is failing at. I have some similar examples to the ones in the article. I recommended that my brother-in-law get a Google wifi AP some years ago. Recently, I got an email from Google saying that they are no longer supporting it and after a certain date you will no longer be able to make changes to it. WTF?!? My Apple Airport Extreme is older than the Goog…

I could not agree more with this sentiment. On an abstract level it is really interesting to me to see if this is how open source eventually wins all the things. I have an ASUS WiFi AP that has been running DD-WRT->OpenWRT for 15 years at this point (changing the underlying hardware twice, once to get 802.11n, and again to get 802.11ac).

I look forward to the day when there are "standard schematics" for this sort of gear which has the level of interoperability that has been achieved in USB and WiFi.

Re: I'm never investing in Google's smart home ecosystem again

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I feel like this is just one more thing that Google leadership is failing at. I have some similar examples to the ones in the article. I recommended that my brother-in-law get a Google wifi AP some years ago. Recently, I got an email from Google saying that they are no longer supporting it and after a certain date you will no longer be able to make changes to it. WTF?!? My Apple Airport Extreme is older than the Goog…

I had the same router they stopped supporting, it worked great but I ended up buying their newer nest wifi because I also wanted a mesh point. They work great as well. I am waiting for the day they also stop supporting them. What's the alternative? What company makes good routers that would get updates over many years? My guess is that I should be looking at ones where I can flash a open source firmware (OpenWRT?)

Re: I'm never investing in Google's smart home ecosystem again

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The ultimate question for consumers though is this: Are you better off in the Apple ecosystem? As bad as things are with Google, the answer is probably no. But not many have the time, tools, and training to be independent of either.

I dug out an old Airport Extreme when a Fritz!Box at the office had some issues. It worked fine as ever and even better, there was even a security update waiting. The device is from 2013.

The third generation Apple TV from 2012 had 120 months of updates (the last update was Apple TV Software 7.9 in March 2022).

So at the very least it sounds like they are doing pretty ok.

Re: I'm never investing in Google's smart home ecosystem again

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

While nearly all phones (including iPhones) have been waterproof for almost decade now that does not solve the issue with capacitive touch screens not working when wet, where to put the phone where it won't slip and break on the tiles, and the terrible quality of phone speakers in general. And then you have a wet slippery phone to put in your pocket (plus probably water trapped behind whatever case you have on it). O…

When you shower, do you just put your clothes on and have no access to a towel? The first iPhone that claimed to be water resistant was the iPhone 7, which was the first iPhone to remove the headphone jack. Android phones solved water resistance with a headphone jack years before that. It was released in 2016, 3 years after the wave of Android phones that were water resistant. I'm a little surprised that it was that…

There's nothing "contrived" about thinking you might drop a phone that you're using while you shower.

Re: I'm never investing in Google's smart home ecosystem again

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I feel like this is just one more thing that Google leadership is failing at. I have some similar examples to the ones in the article. I recommended that my brother-in-law get a Google wifi AP some years ago. Recently, I got an email from Google saying that they are no longer supporting it and after a certain date you will no longer be able to make changes to it. WTF?!? My Apple Airport Extreme is older than the Goog…

For all their faults (I no longer buy their products) Apple is, or at least traditionally was, a company that makes money by making and selling things, so they try to be good at making things.

Google is an advertising company that occasionally tries making and selling things to cope with the insecurity they feel about being an advertising company. But they've never been good at it and never will be.

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