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Why don't most web 2.0 startups use sophisticated algorithms?

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Re: Why don't most web 2.0 startups use sophisticated algorithms?

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I don't get the question? I know a lot of startups using all kinds of algorithms. Xobni(email analysis algorithms/bayesian analysis, statistical analysis), Topix (classification algorithm), Reddit (recommendation algorithm), automattic (spam detection/classification algorithm), krugle(ranking algorithm),joost(distributed system alogrithms) and the list goes on.

Re: Why don't most web 2.0 startups use sophisticated algorithms?

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post #11

I don't get the question? I know a lot of startups using all kinds of algorithms. Xobni(email analysis algorithms/bayesian analysis, statistical analysis), Topix (classification algorithm), Reddit (recommendation algorithm), automattic (spam detection/classification algorithm), krugle(ranking algorithm),joost(distributed system alogrithms) and the list goes on.

How about something that would be publishable in a 1st tier conference?

Re: Why don't most web 2.0 startups use sophisticated algorithms?

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post #11

I don't get the question? I know a lot of startups using all kinds of algorithms. Xobni(email analysis algorithms/bayesian analysis, statistical analysis), Topix (classification algorithm), Reddit (recommendation algorithm), automattic (spam detection/classification algorithm), krugle(ranking algorithm),joost(distributed system alogrithms) and the list goes on.

How about something that would be publishable in a 1st tier conference?

Why would that be relevant to running a business?

Re: Why don't most web 2.0 startups use sophisticated algorithms?

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I bet most people aren't thinking about eigenvectors when they are looking at Google's search results. The user does not (and should not be made to) care about sophisticated algorithms; only utility counts (in business, of course, not in research.)

One can still ask the question though: of the startups acquired by major companies, how many of them use sophisticated algorithms?

"One can still ask the question though: of the startups acquired by major companies, how many of them use sophisticated algorithms?"

Yes, one could. Though it isn't the question you originally asked, and so you shouldn't be surprised when you don't get an answer to that question. The question you asked was "why aren't startups using sophisticated algorithms?" ;-)

Re: Why don't most web 2.0 startups use sophisticated algorithms?

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post #11

I don't get the question? I know a lot of startups using all kinds of algorithms. Xobni(email analysis algorithms/bayesian analysis, statistical analysis), Topix (classification algorithm), Reddit (recommendation algorithm), automattic (spam detection/classification algorithm), krugle(ranking algorithm),joost(distributed system alogrithms) and the list goes on.

How about something that would be publishable in a 1st tier conference?

Trust me. Many of these algorithms are publishable in first-tier journals. There's a wealth of knowledge locked up in these proprietary Intellectual Property.

Re: Why don't most web 2.0 startups use sophisticated algorithms?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If they are using sophisticated algorithms, then they are using them behind the scenes. For example, such a startup might use sophisticated spam detection or a clever algorithm to get a performance boost. This is different from a startup such as Google where PageRank is major breakthrough that is made obvious to everyone. We don't see many startups like Google in web 2.0. It seems that web 2.0 is more about harvestin…

I bet most people aren't thinking about eigenvectors when they are looking at Google's search results. The user does not (and should not be made to) care about sophisticated algorithms; only utility counts (in business, of course, not in research.)

Utility may count more (I would tend to agree with that), but at least some people will wonder why one product works 'so much better' than all the rest when it just came out of the woodworks.

Re: Why don't most web 2.0 startups use sophisticated algorithms?

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post #11

I don't get the question? I know a lot of startups using all kinds of algorithms. Xobni(email analysis algorithms/bayesian analysis, statistical analysis), Topix (classification algorithm), Reddit (recommendation algorithm), automattic (spam detection/classification algorithm), krugle(ranking algorithm),joost(distributed system alogrithms) and the list goes on.

How about something that would be publishable in a 1st tier conference?

Most of the things published in 1st tier conferences are useless outside of academia. In my current field (computer graphics) this is glaringly obvious.
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