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Re: TV series about startup failures

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Post by mnky9800n »

capableweb wrote: post #32
anonzzzies wrote: post #11

This needs to be made. I am often contemplating writing down my startup story which almost killed me (ambulances with sirens, multiple times) and then failed. I really think people should document the actual stories. Also kitchen nightmares/hotel hell for companies. It would be a hit, but without the woke American additions; just go full Ramsey UK style.

> Also kitchen nightmares/hotel hell for companies. It would be a hit, but without the woke American additions; just go full Ramsey UK style. That's a great idea, would love that. What founder with experience has a good enough style/personality for this to work? Jobs sounds like he would be perfect for this, he loved berating people. But who could do the job today? Most founders today are too vanilla for it be intere…

Just have Gordon Ramsay do it anyways.

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mnky9800n wrote: post #39
blantonl wrote: post #27

The "problem" is we really are in an technology revolution similar to the industrial revolution 200-300 years ago. For every 100 tech startup businesses that don't generate a penny of profit and are propped up by hyper valuations and stock prices, there are companies like Facebook and Google and Apple that absolutely print money in profits. That in turn covers the outlay by venture money. All those companies that bur…

What technology has come out in the last decade that isn't an increment or miniaturization?

The revolution we Ade still in is the transistor and it started 60 years ago and probably has 40 years left to go.

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Post by prepend »

nicgrev103 wrote: post #3

'Halt and Catch Fire' (Fictional but good) 'Sillicon Valley' (Fictional and comedy but also good) 'The Playlist' (About Spotify, which isn't failure)

> About Spotify, which isn't failure

Is that true? They are still losing money after, what, 10 years?

I like Spotify but I don’t think they are out of the woods yet.

Just like I wouldn’t call WeWork (isn’t a failure) in 2018.

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Post by capableweb »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #34
capableweb wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, that's the typical startup trajectory, isn't it? As long as the revenue goes up year-by-year (which seems to be true for Spotify), investors are happy to subsidize the net losses, then once they have cornered the market, they can get rid of as much costs as possible and raise prices as much as possible. It's a fucked up system, but it seems most companies go through this.

>then once they have cornered the market Unless Spotify obtains copyright for all the popular music in the world people want to listen to, or media or whatever, I do not see how this is a possibility. Currently, Spotify has to buy from the 3 big music publishers (which limits the amount of expenses it can reduce), and it sells to people who have the option from buying from at least 4 streaming services which are rela…

Well, in my experience in traveling around the world, Spotify is available in every country I've ever been to (according to https://support.spotify.com/us/article/where-spotify-is-avai... at least), while others are spottier coverage.

Sure, not all songs are available everywhere, but there is at least some coverage. Apple Music seems to have pretty widespread coverage too (https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204411) but I could find at least a few places I visited recently where it wasn't available while Spotify was (Bangladesh and Haiti are two examples)

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Post by blantonl »

mnky9800n wrote: post #39
blantonl wrote: post #27

The "problem" is we really are in an technology revolution similar to the industrial revolution 200-300 years ago. For every 100 tech startup businesses that don't generate a penny of profit and are propped up by hyper valuations and stock prices, there are companies like Facebook and Google and Apple that absolutely print money in profits. That in turn covers the outlay by venture money. All those companies that bur…

What technology has come out in the last decade that isn't an increment or miniaturization?

I would argue that the mobile communications device called the "iPhone" is one of the most significant technology innovations developed in the past 100 years.

Love it, hate it, whatever, but it completely revolutionized what is practically access to "everything". You will be hard pressed to find an American consumer, from the richest guy to homeless people on the street that don't have a mobile communications device on their person with a touch screen and instant access to the collective works of the world.

The iPhone by itself as a stand alone business would be larger than Microsoft, Coca-Cola, and McDonalds among other revolutionary businesses.

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Post by bombcar »

blantonl wrote: post #46
mnky9800n wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What technology has come out in the last decade that isn't an increment or miniaturization?

I would argue that the mobile communications device called the "iPhone" is one of the most significant technology innovations developed in the past 100 years. Love it, hate it, whatever, but it completely revolutionized what is practically access to "everything". You will be hard pressed to find an American consumer, from the richest guy to homeless people on the street that don't have a mobile communications device…

The iPhone is 15 years old, so it wasn't in the last decade.

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Post by jsemrau »

LeonM wrote: post #10
I_am_tiberius wrote: post #6

I wished there was some sort of prequel to Silicon Valley, e.g. the Aviato story.

Too bad that TJ Miller (Elrich Bachman) probably won't be associated with it.

TJ Miller made Silicon Valley outstanding. Without him it wasn't the same.

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Post by diatone »

blantonl wrote: post #46
mnky9800n wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What technology has come out in the last decade that isn't an increment or miniaturization?

I would argue that the mobile communications device called the "iPhone" is one of the most significant technology innovations developed in the past 100 years. Love it, hate it, whatever, but it completely revolutionized what is practically access to "everything". You will be hard pressed to find an American consumer, from the richest guy to homeless people on the street that don't have a mobile communications device…

Not a great answer for the GP though.

Last ten years? Maybe something in deep learning.

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Post by ghaff »

blantonl wrote: post #46
mnky9800n wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What technology has come out in the last decade that isn't an increment or miniaturization?

I would argue that the mobile communications device called the "iPhone" is one of the most significant technology innovations developed in the past 100 years. Love it, hate it, whatever, but it completely revolutionized what is practically access to "everything". You will be hard pressed to find an American consumer, from the richest guy to homeless people on the street that don't have a mobile communications device…

It's not just the iPhone/smartphone. If you showed me just the device in 2005, I'd probably have been "OK. Cool. But how well does it work without a keyboard?" And, in fact, I had a Treo in 2006 and didn't buy an iPhone until around 2010 or so. What was really game changing was the whole app ecosystem and universality of mobile. And that wasn't really in place until maybe close to ten years ago.

LLMs/generative AI could be game changing although I'm somewhere on the fence between this year's hype and this will change everything. Autonomous driving could be pretty radical as well but it would have to be pretty general purpose and that doesn't seem close to reality.

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