'Halt and Catch Fire' (Fictional but good) 'Sillicon Valley' (Fictional and comedy but also good) 'The Playlist' (About Spotify, which isn't failure)
Halt and Catch Fire was a great show! Leaving this gem here: https://bits.ashleyblewer.com/halt-and-catch-fire-syllabus/
TV series about startup failures
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#32This needs to be made. I am often contemplating writing down my startup story which almost killed me (ambulances with sirens, multiple times) and then failed. I really think people should document the actual stories. Also kitchen nightmares/hotel hell for companies. It would be a hit, but without the woke American additions; just go full Ramsey UK style.
That's a great idea, would love that. What founder with experience has a good enough style/personality for this to work? Jobs sounds like he would be perfect for this, he loved berating people. But who could do the job today? Most founders today are too vanilla for it be interesting, at least their public persona.
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#33I wished there was some sort of prequel to Silicon Valley, e.g. the Aviato story.
Too bad that TJ Miller (Elrich Bachman) probably won't be associated with it.
TJ Miller (Erlich)
Martin Starr (Gilfoyle)
Zach Woods (Jared)
Kumail Nanjiani (Dinesh)
(in roughly this order)
[Honorary mention: Henry Phillips (John, the datacenter guy)]
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
>About Spotify, which isn't failure I feel like Spotify’s value is mainly to the big 3 music publishers to gain negotiating power against Apple/Alphabet/Amazon. It has existed since 2006, and still losing money. And lots of it. https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/SPOT/spotify-techn...
Well, that's the typical startup trajectory, isn't it? As long as the revenue goes up year-by-year (which seems to be true for Spotify), investors are happy to subsidize the net losses, then once they have cornered the market, they can get rid of as much costs as possible and raise prices as much as possible. It's a fucked up system, but it seems most companies go through this.
Unless Spotify obtains copyright for all the popular music in the world people want to listen to, or media or whatever, I do not see how this is a possibility.
Currently, Spotify has to buy from the 3 big music publishers (which limits the amount of expenses it can reduce), and it sells to people who have the option from buying from at least 4 streaming services which are relatively trivial to switch to (which limits the amount of revenue they can earn). The exact opposite of the situation you want your business to be in.
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
no startup can compete against an america company backed by endless cheap money. Not that founders dont want to turn a profit its just a cruel game and its the way its until cheap money ends in USA(it never happens bcz no gov wants recession on their watch).
Cheap money has ended, hasn‘t it?
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
no startup can compete against an america company backed by endless cheap money. Not that founders dont want to turn a profit its just a cruel game and its the way its until cheap money ends in USA(it never happens bcz no gov wants recession on their watch).
Cheap money has ended, hasn‘t it?
If we get that recession, we could see those rates reverse and end up negative again before too long.
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#37'Halt and Catch Fire' (Fictional but good) 'Sillicon Valley' (Fictional and comedy but also good) 'The Playlist' (About Spotify, which isn't failure)
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
no startup can compete against an america company backed by endless cheap money. Not that founders dont want to turn a profit its just a cruel game and its the way its until cheap money ends in USA(it never happens bcz no gov wants recession on their watch).
Cheap money has ended, hasn‘t it?
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#39The "problem" is we really are in an technology revolution similar to the industrial revolution 200-300 years ago. For every 100 tech startup businesses that don't generate a penny of profit and are propped up by hyper valuations and stock prices, there are companies like Facebook and Google and Apple that absolutely print money in profits. That in turn covers the outlay by venture money. All those companies that bur…
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#40The "problem" is we really are in an technology revolution similar to the industrial revolution 200-300 years ago. For every 100 tech startup businesses that don't generate a penny of profit and are propped up by hyper valuations and stock prices, there are companies like Facebook and Google and Apple that absolutely print money in profits. That in turn covers the outlay by venture money. All those companies that bur…
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/froth.asp
And now we are about to get AI froth that will follow the same Gartner hype cycle.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gartner_hype_cycle
I wonder where you guys would place us now? I’d say Peak of Inflated Expectations since every other story on HN is about AI or large language models.