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You can just not click on Bluesky links, no one is forcing you to read articles you aren’t interested in.
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You can hide posts you don't want to see. Problem solved.
I downloaded all 1.6M posts on Bluesky
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#202That's so much smaller than I expected. Mastodon stats claim 1.1B posts [1]. Both are growing fast, but I'm surprised by that gap. [1] https://the-federation.info/
Why are you surprised by that? Mastodon is older, a lot more ironed out (in its own quirky ways), actually open to the public, and bot-friendly. Of course it's orders of magnitude more popular at this point in time.
That said, even though I'm rooting for Mastodon, I would not be shocked if Bluesky catches up very quickly. In any case, any of the two is an improvement over a locked down and thoroughly broken Twitter.
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#203Given that Bluesky makes it this easy to download data, it's quite alarming that the graph of who blocks & mutes who is fully public and easy to extract into a database: https://atproto.com/lexicons/app-bsky-graph#appbskygraphgetb... On Twitter, blocking a toxic user does not notify them - while they can query the block status of one profile at a time, they can never get a full list of people who block them. But it w…
Don't know how much it is wort, but also GDPR applies. So you need a legal basis for processing (at least data from EU citizens). That could well be journalism or scientific research, but for anything else it probably should be compatible with the expectation of the users. Fines have been typically rare and low for 'illegal' processing of twitter data. However, also blue sky and any other federating entity could face a legal risk if they do not protect that data reasonably against misuse.
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This tells me that you don’t actually want what Twitter is (was?) good at. Mastodon is clearly not a replacement for me. It’s a different type of community/service, one that doesn’t have much value for me. (Not to say it’s bad! I just don’t care for it, it doesn’t do something I want.) Equally, Twitter wasn’t (and mostly still isn’t) terrible for everyone. Everyone gets to choose what it is! I am particular about who…
No, i understand what Twitter is. I was using it as far back as 2009. I have a problem with recent pre-musk changes, such as putting posts from people you dont follow and often dont agree with into your feed to make people argue. If you don't post iften enough, several times a day they will even send you notifications for posts that don't involve you and don't even come from people you follow. And then there's Twitte…
Refreshing to hear someone criticize Twitter for pre-Musk censorship and discourse-destroying policies, which indeed go right to Dorsey’s front door.
Most current anti-Twitter sentiment I see is from people who hate Elon Musk and want to see him fail. Limited principal discussion about what features a communication platform/protocol must have to best enable knowledge sharing and discourse.
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As a team member, one request that I do have is that don't make Clubhouse's mistake. Someone once told me that Clubhouse was like a house party, where your behavior reflected on who invited you. So it kept the initial community quality high. The minute Clubhouse removed that invite-only policy, the community died very quickly and everything was replaced by the worst sludge imaginable. I think you should keep the invi…
Social solutions to social problems. Perfect!
Not perfect. Brings the problems of social solutions too.
Popularity contests, smooching, people & groups ostracized for status game reasons, other forms of social bullying and so on.
It’s maybe great for a frat, but it will struggle for exploring the fallow lands close to controversial topics.
This happens to be where a lot of the really important stuff happens, the explorations that lead to growth.
You can’t solve this by simple weighting. Most novel true and important things are only realized by a tiny minoroty. And if they happen to be unpopular, forget about it.
If the purpose of your social network is to be actually useful for the world, this is an extremely important feature
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> The fact that they even take up visual space is an annoyance Yes, we all have things other HN users are interested in that we aren’t. That’s a consequence of participating in a community, as distinct from a hivemind.
> That’s a consequence of participating in a community, as distinct from a hivemind.
Then surely you upvoted 'brvsft' for being a good member and asking the community to not to share more Bluesky content?
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#207I would just like to say that I am excited for Bluesky to exist. It might go poorly, but I'm unwilling to write off weird attempts at innovation before the technology has had a chance to evolve in the wild. I've seen several posts lately that have made me feel like the HN sentiment towards Bluesky is negative. Throwing them under the bus for the domain validation mistake. Hatred at commercialization of a protocol. Qu…
A worse Twitter? The amount of blatant racism, bigotry, and calls for violence have exploded in the past couple of months. These people all buy blue checks so they get amplified. It's insane. My bluesky invite cannot come soon enough.
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#208Last time I saw bsky on HN a maintainer shared a skip-waitlist invitation code ('anyone on HN is probably better behaved than some of the trolls we've dealt with', or something to that effect) - which was unfortunately dead by the time I found it। Any chance of an encore? Or I am on the waitlist: something I don't recall at username dot com।
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Finally PGP finds its niche!
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There's no shortage of social media that offer "user safety" (ie; arbitrary censorship, unaccountable mods, enforced thought bubbles). Internet without the training wheels should at least be an option, for those of us who have thick enough skin to dismiss the stuff we don't like without needing a self appointed authority figure to decide for us.
You really need to read https://www.techdirt.com/2022/11/02/hey-elon-let-me-help-you...
I generally find my viewpoint aligned with Mike on most issues, however this is where my opinion starts to diverge:
> “Right, boss, apparently because you keep talking about freedom, a large group of people are taking it to mean they have ‘freedom’ to harass people with slurs and all sorts of abuse. People are leaving the site because of it, and advertisers are pulling ads.”
> That seems bad. Quick, have someone write up some rules against hate speech.
People who use slurs are absolute buffoons, and I have no interest in exposing myself to that sort of garbage (so I choose not to go to spaces where it's prevalent), however once there is a precedent for acceptable/unacceptable speech, and a mechanism where that can be enforced, it's inevitable that the definitions expand over time to things that cause advertisers to get squeamish. The paragraph references that very example.
The end result is that anything that could be an idea exchange becomes part of a monoculture of corporate controlled platforms with fairly consistent bounds on acceptable speech. This gives a small group of organisations outsized influence over public discourse, and the consequences of that are significant enough that it's worth exploring it in depth.
I want to be able to access diverse viewpoints, and to engage or ignore as I see fit. I'm suspicious of anyone who would want to make those decisions for me.
There is also a phenomenon where speech outside these bounds prompts people to themselves call for controls and limits to be put in place. I find that very concerning on a societal scale. It works in the interests of those who want to control speech.
Having outlets for fringe thoughts is a pressure release valve for the global conversation, and I worry that sanitising the whole thing will radicalise the people who are collecting in what few low touch spaces there are left.
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#210What is Bluesky?
Sunlight reaches Earth's atmosphere and is scattered in all directions by all the gases and particles in the air. Blue light is scattered more than the other colors because it travels as shorter, smaller waves.
This is why we see a blue sky most of the time.