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Re: I downloaded all 1.6M posts on Bluesky

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Post by downWidOutaFite »

barnabee wrote: post #110
sneak wrote: post #92

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People prefer to receive information that other people get (ie from popular people and large outlets), so algorithmic prioritization of existing popular brands/people is literally just giving (most) readers what they want. Sites that do this will outcompete sites that do not. Decentralized systems do provide an escape hatch, however, so that's good and useful for the minority of users that seek out niches or deep cut…

I don’t know if that’s true but it seems like TikTok’s success is at least partially attributable to it not being?

It's not as if TikTok doesn't have influencers and hasn't created a bunch of celebrities.

Re: I downloaded all 1.6M posts on Bluesky

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Post by navigate8310 »

dawidpotocki wrote: post #175
mulmen wrote: post #139

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Federation is great when properly applied. Email is an example of federation done right. But federated social media is a mistake. Not because it is federated, but because all social media is a mistake.

As someone that self hosts email, hell no. SMTP by itself has no authentication and we had to add crap on top of it like SPF, DKIM, DMARC. Don't have it? Oops, sorry, to spam it goes. Oh and don't forget about a reverse DNS record for your IP address with a correct domain, otherwise some mail servers will deny you. Want other mailservers to send you emails via TLS? Well, there is DANE, but that uses DNSSEC so Gmail d…

Since some clients pull images from Gravatar, it's advisable to add an image to your Gravatar account and display it instead. While not a universal solution like BIMI, this is still an acceptable option where feasible.

Re: I downloaded all 1.6M posts on Bluesky

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Post by nmeofthestate »

sodality2 wrote: post #156
capableweb wrote: post #137

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> On twitter if a profile is locked (cannot be viewed publicly and followers must be approved) it’s very difficult for a blocked user to ever see a post. It's really not. Incognito window usually work, or something like nitter. Not to mention all the various archives of public tweets. > Even for a public profile if someone is blocked they can’t use the normal QT option and they can’t reply, which creates much more fr…

> Incognito window usually work, or something like nitter They won't if the profile is locked. It means you have to be logged in to check you aren't on their blocklist (or maybe even it's equivalent to account being private - I'm not up to date on Twitter).

Hence "usually" - the vast majority of accounts aren't private

Re: I downloaded all 1.6M posts on Bluesky

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Post by ta8903 »

wnevets wrote: post #167
admax88qqq wrote: post #104

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Biggest difference that I noticed is in Bkueaky you identity is not tied to the site you signed up at. Mastodon has a huge flaw in that your identity is not stable. Like email your identity is tied to your provider, and if you change providers you have to change your identity, and all your contacts have to update their addresses boom so to speak. In Bluesky your identity is stable, with some caveats. It's easy to "br…

So its mastodon with better identity management?

>better Sounds more like "centralized" identity management.

Re: I downloaded all 1.6M posts on Bluesky

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Post by Zetice »

KerrAvon wrote: post #177
Zetice wrote: post #153

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It's so much easier to build this into the app (which is what you're saying) rather than try to solve this at the proto level, I'm honestly surprised they even tried to include it into the protocol. Then again, I shouldn't be surprised. There's a really large trans community active on Bluesky right now, and they've been extremely vocal about what's important to them, with blocking being the thing demanded the loudest…

I’m not sure any of that is accurate. According to The Verge, they added blocking earlier than they wanted to because Matt Yglesias was getting brigaded for his anti-trans views.

I’m on Bluesky, it’s what I’ve seen. Lots of folks from the trans communities there advocated strongly for the protection of blocking, saying muting didn’t go far enough (I disagreed but nobody cared).

Re: I downloaded all 1.6M posts on Bluesky

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Post by stjohnswarts »

SeanAnderson wrote: post #22

I would just like to say that I am excited for Bluesky to exist. It might go poorly, but I'm unwilling to write off weird attempts at innovation before the technology has had a chance to evolve in the wild. I've seen several posts lately that have made me feel like the HN sentiment towards Bluesky is negative. Throwing them under the bus for the domain validation mistake. Hatred at commercialization of a protocol. Qu…

I lot of people hate themselves and the world and complain about everything. I wouldn't worry too much about what the HN unimind thinks about something.

Re: I downloaded all 1.6M posts on Bluesky

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Post by slushh »

brundolf wrote: post #88
mullingitover wrote: post #56

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So far it seems to be Mastodon, with some tweaks, and the improvement that while it's federated in theory , right now there's only one server . This addresses the critical flaw people point out with Mastodon, which is that because it requires you to choose a server it's too confusing. The requirement to choose a hosting provider is why email famously never took off.

It's structured very differently from Mastodon. Please stop repeating this meme without any firsthand knowledge

Could you elaborate, please? There are several comments wanting to know the difference.

Re: I downloaded all 1.6M posts on Bluesky

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Post by dawidpotocki »

navigate8310 wrote: post #182
dawidpotocki wrote: post #175

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As someone that self hosts email, hell no. SMTP by itself has no authentication and we had to add crap on top of it like SPF, DKIM, DMARC. Don't have it? Oops, sorry, to spam it goes. Oh and don't forget about a reverse DNS record for your IP address with a correct domain, otherwise some mail servers will deny you. Want other mailservers to send you emails via TLS? Well, there is DANE, but that uses DNSSEC so Gmail d…

Since some clients pull images from Gravatar, it's advisable to add an image to your Gravatar account and display it instead. While not a universal solution like BIMI, this is still an acceptable option where feasible.

Never heard of clients using Gravatar, but then that's relying on a centralised service. It further proves my point that email is not a good example of "federation done right".

Re: I downloaded all 1.6M posts on Bluesky

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Post by snickerbockers »

barnabee wrote: post #75
snickerbockers wrote: post #59

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TBH I haven't paid much attention to it, but as somebody who was already using Mastodon as their primary social network for years before Musk took over, I'm not sure I understand what niche BlueSky is even supposed to fill that ActivityPub/Fediverse doesn't already fill. It just seems like a bunch of guys who got ousted from their jobs trying to invent a new commercial social network. And one of the things that needs…

This tells me that you don’t actually want what Twitter is (was?) good at. Mastodon is clearly not a replacement for me. It’s a different type of community/service, one that doesn’t have much value for me. (Not to say it’s bad! I just don’t care for it, it doesn’t do something I want.) Equally, Twitter wasn’t (and mostly still isn’t) terrible for everyone. Everyone gets to choose what it is! I am particular about who…

No, i understand what Twitter is. I was using it as far back as 2009. I have a problem with recent pre-musk changes, such as putting posts from people you dont follow and often dont agree with into your feed to make people argue. If you don't post iften enough, several times a day they will even send you notifications for posts that don't involve you and don't even come from people you follow.

And then there's Twitter turning itself into the arbiter of truth. Users were having blue checks revoked as a punitive measure, which means that it's not really about "verifying" somebody, it's just a stupid status symbol.

They have an AI that will automatically ban you on a whim if you talk about certain subjects; i was permanently banned for over a month for making a joke at the expense of anti-vaxxers before amoderator finally reviewed my case and removed the infraction from my account.

Their role in covering up the hunter Biden laptop leak is also disturbing. I don't even think there was anything noteworthy in the leak, but Twitter censoring something that might be embarrassing for a politician under the guise of combatting misinformation is a scandal unto itself.

These are all things that happened before Elon musk announced he was buying Twitter. It is absolutely a terrible, abusive platform and i cannot fathom why anybody would trust Jack Dorsey to run another social network.

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