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New study: 70% of type 2 diabetes cases linked to food choices

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Re: New study: 70% of type 2 diabetes cases linked to food choices

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Just wildly incorrect. https://www.webmd.com/diet/health-benefits-of-whole-grain-pa... Sure it might be better to avoid milled grains, but if you do, (the vast vast majority of people don't avoid them) they should be whole or brown. What's more, if you're talking ancestral diet, it should certainly includes grains like wild rice, whole barley, rough milled wheat, farro, and quinoa.

Lots of studies out there which are correlational and thus meaningless, or worse, studies which intentionally produce false results due to being bought-and-paid-for. I don't have time to look at each link that page cites, but for example the American Heart Association is a terrible entity with worse than worthless recommendations which are completely not backed up by science. Most of human evolutionary history was hu…

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/humans-fea...

Re: New study: 70% of type 2 diabetes cases linked to food choices

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> Processed meats contain a LOT of salt. Salt doesn't cause diabetes, but it does cause water retention and high blood pressure, so is bad for people with diabetes. Why is salt / bad influence for people with diabetes relevant in this context? Weren’t we interested in meat in relation to the rising global incidence of diabetes? Cottage cheese, shrimp, canned tuna and more also are high in sodium.

Processed meats often also contain a lot of sugar. Breakfast sausage, bacon, etc. frequently have added sugar.

Even beef jerky has ridiculous amounts of sugar, it's hard to find a brand that doesn't have more sugar calories than protein calories. I tend to cook nearly all my own food anyway, but it would be nice to be able to pay somebody to make ready to eat foods that didn't include ridiculously needless additions.

Re: New study: 70% of type 2 diabetes cases linked to food choices

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Lots of studies out there which are correlational and thus meaningless, or worse, studies which intentionally produce false results due to being bought-and-paid-for. I don't have time to look at each link that page cites, but for example the American Heart Association is a terrible entity with worse than worthless recommendations which are completely not backed up by science. Most of human evolutionary history was hu…

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/humans-fea...

Even if that were true for all human populations and not just a select few, 100,000 years is still very short compared to 2 million estimated years of hunter-gathering.

Re: New study: 70% of type 2 diabetes cases linked to food choices

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My personal, unsubstantiated opinion is that the food most people eat is now full of substances and chemicals that weren't there 50 years ago. A huge example is high fructose corn syrup. Almost everything is sweetened with that instead of cane sugar.

Food manufacturers IMO only care about making food cheap, making us crave it, and making it last a long time on the shelf. They aren't concerned about making sure it is healthy, as long as it doesn't immediately kill us.

Another example is artificial sweeteners. Studies have shown that sucralose (Splenda) reduces insulin resistance something like 17%. Is anyone making sure that everyone knows that? Hell no.

Re: New study: 70% of type 2 diabetes cases linked to food choices

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>I ate a huge honeycrisp apple for breakfast. It probably weighed 400 or 500g that is huge... a half kilo apple?!?!

Yeah, you can get cosmic crisp apples of around 400g

I had one in my fridge most of last week waiting for the right time to strike.

It was a serious apple and required a plan.

Re: New study: 70% of type 2 diabetes cases linked to food choices

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I've been suffering from hypoglycemia for a good part of my life, and recently the episodes have started to become a bit more frequent (a bad hypoglycemia episode is like an incredibly horrifying panic attack). Trying to figure out WTF is going on with me has been daunting, everyone tells me to eat more sugar or more complex carbs which just seems to repeat the cycle. No one wants to test me, or knows what to test me…

I've had it since I was a child. Am 40 now. I get hypoglycemic episodes (confirmed many times with a glucose prick test - symptoms are loss of mental focus, cold sweats, shaky hands, overall fatigue and lethargy, voracity to eat), solved easily by eating carbs / sugar. No doctor has been able to provide an explanation or even cared that I brought it up. it is not consistent either, I can be eating the same things in same schedules, some days I get it some days I don't. When I tend to get it though, it is in clusters. Like I get it frequently for a couple months, then nothing a couple months. Sometimes it goes away for a year. Then comes back. Most frequently I get it a couple hours after eating fruit on a semi / empty stomach.

Re: New study: 70% of type 2 diabetes cases linked to food choices

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Yeah, you can get cosmic crisp apples of around 400g

I had one in my fridge most of last week waiting for the right time to strike. It was a serious apple and required a plan.

Really? I can eat like 3 cosmic crisps in one sitting.

Re: New study: 70% of type 2 diabetes cases linked to food choices

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I've been suffering from hypoglycemia for a good part of my life, and recently the episodes have started to become a bit more frequent (a bad hypoglycemia episode is like an incredibly horrifying panic attack). Trying to figure out WTF is going on with me has been daunting, everyone tells me to eat more sugar or more complex carbs which just seems to repeat the cycle. No one wants to test me, or knows what to test me…

I had a similar problem, and in my case it turned out to be reactive hypoglycaemia.

It means that my body is insulin resistant, and when I eat anything that raises my sugar levels, the body starts pumping out more and more insulin till it reaches a point where the sugar levels fall below normal. So the body is hit by bad effects of high sugar, and then with bad effects of low sugar.

In my case the solution was to avoid sugars and refined carbs in breakfast. As Indians our breakfast contains a lot of carbs.

If I have eggs for breakfast, I can pretty much anything the entire day and not feel it. On the other hand if I have pancakes with syrup, I know I am in for an episode of hypoglycaemia.

Also if I have sugar or refined carbs, having a fibre supplement (psyllium husk) with it helps.

Overall adding more salad and protein is what I would recommend if you also have this.

PS: For diagnosis go to an endocrinologist.

Re: New study: 70% of type 2 diabetes cases linked to food choices

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post #74

My personal, unsubstantiated opinion is that the food most people eat is now full of substances and chemicals that weren't there 50 years ago. A huge example is high fructose corn syrup. Almost everything is sweetened with that instead of cane sugar. Food manufacturers IMO only care about making food cheap, making us crave it, and making it last a long time on the shelf. They aren't concerned about making sure it is…

High fructose corn syrup is a very poor example. It is composed of fructose and glucose, both very familiar molecules to our bodies.
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