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Re: I downloaded all 1.6M posts on Bluesky

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Post by barnabee »

sneak wrote: post #32
SeanAnderson wrote: post #22

I would just like to say that I am excited for Bluesky to exist. It might go poorly, but I'm unwilling to write off weird attempts at innovation before the technology has had a chance to evolve in the wild. I've seen several posts lately that have made me feel like the HN sentiment towards Bluesky is negative. Throwing them under the bus for the domain validation mistake. Hatred at commercialization of a protocol. Qu…

People seem to be generally anti-social-media and, furthermore, anti-social-media-magnate. I'm a fan of publishing. I think any-to-any publishing is one of the most important applications of the internet.

Agreed.

The most important property of any-to-any publishing is not to (algorithmically or otherwise) turn any-to-any into some-to-many by creating celebrities and boosting the same content to everyone.

I think this is something TikTok (for all their issues) probably got more right than others.

There’s a lot further to go before we perfect this, but Nostr, Bluesky, et al. are doing at least something right.

Re: I downloaded all 1.6M posts on Bluesky

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Post by Hamuko »

doodlesdev wrote: post #63

What are the advantages of ATProto over ActivityPub? I don't get it, if you want to make a decentralized social network why not go with the standardized, working, protocol? What does ATProto offer over ActivityPub?

Character limits for one thing.

  "text": {
      "type": "string",
      "maxLength": 3000,
      "maxGraphemes": 300
  }
https://atproto.com/lexicons/app-bsky-feed#appbskyfeedpost

Re: I downloaded all 1.6M posts on Bluesky

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Post by detaro »

naet wrote: post #78
snickerbockers wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TBH I haven't paid much attention to it, but as somebody who was already using Mastodon as their primary social network for years before Musk took over, I'm not sure I understand what niche BlueSky is even supposed to fill that ActivityPub/Fediverse doesn't already fill. It just seems like a bunch of guys who got ousted from their jobs trying to invent a new commercial social network. And one of the things that needs…

Maybe some folks like yourself thought Twitter was terrible before, but plenty of people were happy enough until certain changes by Musk. Mastodon itself had a large growth recently as people left Twitter in response. I had an automated bot running for a long time on Twitter that I was happy with, until recently when API access was cut off. Now I'm looking for a new platform for my bot to run on as a direct result of…

> I think I prefer something more similar to how Twitter was than Mastodon currently is for my needs.

curious what those differences would be for running your bot?

Re: I downloaded all 1.6M posts on Bluesky

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Post by krapp »

morkalork wrote: post #70
mahathu wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How about using a tree-like structure to track who invited whom to the platform. Offer a generous yet limited number of invites to users, potentially adjusting this amount based on their positive interactions within the network. Permanently ban accounts that violate the rules, and if the new accounts a user invites keep getting banned (automatically) investigate whether that user is using multiple accounts, which wou…

It's funny to see people advocate for a classist system of nobility hundreds of years later. Please, tell us more about how you'd like to restrict a social network to those who are, as they say, "well bred".

You think it's classism akin to advocating for bloodline nobility to want a community of people who follow the rules and make positive contributions?

Do you even know where you are right now?

Re: I downloaded all 1.6M posts on Bluesky

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Post by brundolf »

bnewbold wrote: post #47

some quick thoughts/notes (I am on the bluesky team, but this isn't an official policy statement): - content on bluesky is public, but we have not set expectations/comms around that well yet, and this dump may be a surprise to some existing accounts. where exactly bluesky falls on the spectrum from "congressional register (immutable)" to "public web" to "public IRC or discord room" to "private signal group" is still…

Thanks for weighing in

It's disappointing to hear that follower-only/circles (whitelisted viewers) posts are basically incompatible with the current protocol. I'd hoped something could be done where the post content was encrypted in such a way that only specific authenticated users could decrypt it, or something along those lines

Re: I downloaded all 1.6M posts on Bluesky

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Post by teddyfrozevelt »

capableweb wrote: post #77
OJFord wrote: post #49

Last time I saw bsky on HN a maintainer shared a skip-waitlist invitation code ('anyone on HN is probably better behaved than some of the trolls we've dealt with', or something to that effect) - which was unfortunately dead by the time I found it। Any chance of an encore? Or I am on the waitlist: something I don't recall at username dot com।

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Did you sign an invite code using the key in their bio? That's so neat! I'm not sure if you have more, but I'm also on the waitlist (bluesky@owen.sh) and would love to check it out.

Re: I downloaded all 1.6M posts on Bluesky

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Post by brundolf »

mullingitover wrote: post #56
amelius wrote: post #25

What is Bluesky?

So far it seems to be Mastodon, with some tweaks, and the improvement that while it's federated in theory , right now there's only one server . This addresses the critical flaw people point out with Mastodon, which is that because it requires you to choose a server it's too confusing. The requirement to choose a hosting provider is why email famously never took off.

It's structured very differently from Mastodon. Please stop repeating this meme without any firsthand knowledge
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