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I downloaded all 1.6M posts on Bluesky

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Re: I downloaded all 1.6M posts on Bluesky

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Post by tbalsam »

SeanAnderson wrote: post #22

I would just like to say that I am excited for Bluesky to exist. It might go poorly, but I'm unwilling to write off weird attempts at innovation before the technology has had a chance to evolve in the wild. I've seen several posts lately that have made me feel like the HN sentiment towards Bluesky is negative. Throwing them under the bus for the domain validation mistake. Hatred at commercialization of a protocol. Qu…

I think this is a good take that I don't need to add much to, to be honest.

Maybe this doesn't add as much to the discussion as vehement agreement or disagreement might to the curious HN reader, but I do really personally appreciate it. <3 :)

Re: I downloaded all 1.6M posts on Bluesky

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Post by sneak »

SeanAnderson wrote: post #22

I would just like to say that I am excited for Bluesky to exist. It might go poorly, but I'm unwilling to write off weird attempts at innovation before the technology has had a chance to evolve in the wild. I've seen several posts lately that have made me feel like the HN sentiment towards Bluesky is negative. Throwing them under the bus for the domain validation mistake. Hatred at commercialization of a protocol. Qu…

People seem to be generally anti-social-media and, furthermore, anti-social-media-magnate.

I'm a fan of publishing. I think any-to-any publishing is one of the most important applications of the internet.

Re: I downloaded all 1.6M posts on Bluesky

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Post by capableweb »

SeanAnderson wrote: post #22

I would just like to say that I am excited for Bluesky to exist. It might go poorly, but I'm unwilling to write off weird attempts at innovation before the technology has had a chance to evolve in the wild. I've seen several posts lately that have made me feel like the HN sentiment towards Bluesky is negative. Throwing them under the bus for the domain validation mistake. Hatred at commercialization of a protocol. Qu…

> I felt like there was an ideal point where Pidgin + XMPP interfaced with everything and we've slowly walked away from that high water mark. So, approaching communication at the protcol level has a certain appeal. I get the reasoning behind the goal.

One thing regarding bluesky that is often overlooked, and is related to XMPP (Jabber), is that Jeremie Miller, the inventor of XMPP is one of three board members, the others being Jack of Twitter fame and Jay Graber who is the CEO.

Hopefully, the combined experience of running a platform the founder himself consider a failure with the experience of inventing a open protocol still being used today, can create something cool.

But it's way too early to tell, as you say. One can only stand by and see where they end up. They certainly have interesting ideas, but the crux is always in the implementation.

Re: I downloaded all 1.6M posts on Bluesky

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Post by XorNot »

skc wrote: post #8
mikece wrote: post #4

The fact that someone can download all posts on a social network tells you how little usage it has attracted.

It's still in closed Beta and invite only

Which broadly describes why things are going okay there. There isn't anything to moderate, there's no spam, there's no fixated person harrassment.

There's nothing hard being solved.

Re: I downloaded all 1.6M posts on Bluesky

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Post by capableweb »

mikece wrote: post #4

The fact that someone can download all posts on a social network tells you how little usage it has attracted.

Would be interesting to see if your comment has any basis at all by comparing how things looked for Twitter at the same timescale, or Facebook, or any other social media.

Just to look at the numbers in isolation is hardly interesting.

Re: I downloaded all 1.6M posts on Bluesky

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Post by RheingoldRiver »

SeanAnderson wrote: post #22

I would just like to say that I am excited for Bluesky to exist. It might go poorly, but I'm unwilling to write off weird attempts at innovation before the technology has had a chance to evolve in the wild. I've seen several posts lately that have made me feel like the HN sentiment towards Bluesky is negative. Throwing them under the bus for the domain validation mistake. Hatred at commercialization of a protocol. Qu…

> I felt like there was an ideal point where Pidgin + XMPP interfaced with everything and we've slowly walked away from that high water mark.

I remember writing a tutorial on how to connect your League of Legends chat of all things to Pidgin, once upon a time. I doubt it still works, Riot's completely remade their client since then....but, yeah, those days were certainly nice.

Re: I downloaded all 1.6M posts on Bluesky

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Post by grimgrin »

SeanAnderson wrote: post #22

I would just like to say that I am excited for Bluesky to exist. It might go poorly, but I'm unwilling to write off weird attempts at innovation before the technology has had a chance to evolve in the wild. I've seen several posts lately that have made me feel like the HN sentiment towards Bluesky is negative. Throwing them under the bus for the domain validation mistake. Hatred at commercialization of a protocol. Qu…

I'm happy it exists too. By far my favorite discussion about it was Oxide's last podcast:

https://oxide-and-friends.transistor.fm/episodes/blue-skies-...

Emily Kisane was on the ep, following their piece that blew up https://erinkissane.com/blue-skies-over-mastodon

> In addition to Bryan Cantrill and Adam Leventhal, we were joined by special guest Erin Kissane and long-time acquaintances of the show Tim Bray and Steve Klabnik.

Re: I downloaded all 1.6M posts on Bluesky

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Post by neltnerb »

bombcar wrote: post #28
areoform wrote: post #24

Bluesky is absurd in both its small village feel and the breadth of people who post there and you can interact with. It's the same vibe as very early clubhouse. Broke artists next to philanthropists.

All invite-only early-access things that get hot are like it; once they go to general availability they go to shit, it seems.

It's so predictable that it's frustrating to see people who should know better falling for it. Of course it's a fresh feel without the trolls. It's not open to all yet, so of course it is.

I don't know why they expect it to turn out any differently, it's hard to take this tool seriously.

Facebook was fresh once too. It was invite only for elite universities so everyone had roughly the same expectations for where lines were (they were not in acceptable places, but homogeneity helps with that).

Re: I downloaded all 1.6M posts on Bluesky

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Post by wnevets »

SeanAnderson wrote: post #22

I would just like to say that I am excited for Bluesky to exist. It might go poorly, but I'm unwilling to write off weird attempts at innovation before the technology has had a chance to evolve in the wild. I've seen several posts lately that have made me feel like the HN sentiment towards Bluesky is negative. Throwing them under the bus for the domain validation mistake. Hatred at commercialization of a protocol. Qu…

> I would just like to say that I am excited for Bluesky to exist. It might go poorly, but I'm unwilling to write off weird attempts at innovation before the technology has had a chance to evolve in the wild.

Isn't it just a variation of mastodon?

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