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Re: Ask HN: How did ChatGPT4 blew your mind lately?

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ChatGPT4 blew my mind when I asked it some specific details about my PhD thesis. It was a relative simple question, but you needed to know some domain knowledge to give the correct answer. ChatGPT not only gave a wrong answer, it completely made up a story was beyond repair. It is concerning (blew my mind) how confident ChatGPT can provide a completely wrong answer.

A recent thesis is a single datapoint at the edge of human knowledge. These bots will necessarily be better at parsing information with more interconnectedness closer to the core of existing human knowledge.

Re: Ask HN: How did ChatGPT4 blew your mind lately?

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This week between ChatGPT and Phind I asked an AI four questions. Two were about SMT-LIB, one was about homomorphic encryption, and one was about software-defined networking.

Both ChatGPT and Phind insisted on giving me example SMT problems and then incorrect solutions to them. The HE answer was so vague as to be useless, and I don’t actually know enough about SDN to verify the last one but it seemed useful.

Overall it didn’t give me a lot of confidence in the two systems.

Re: Ask HN: How did ChatGPT4 blew your mind lately?

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I see a lot of replies here talking about asking GPT questions in a domain an individual is an expert in, and being disappointed in the results. I think this is missing the point a bit. The impressive part of GPT isn’t that it’s an expert in anything, but that it’s better than an average human on many topics. For example - someone brought up GPT not comprehending homomorphic encryption fully. Well, I have a MS in CS and have been professionally developing software for 15 years, and I’ve even READ articles on homomorphic encryption multiple times, but I can’t articulate what it is very well. I just remember it’s inefficient and infeasible at this time.

The thing that is mind blowing to me is that I can talk with GPT about basically any topic and it can help get me in the right direction, I can talk with it to get clarity on anything that’s confusing, and it’s like a way to collaborate on thought without a human. That’s mindblowing to me!

Re: Ask HN: How did ChatGPT4 blew your mind lately?

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Honestly, it hasn't. Last night I was trying to use it/Bing to write a simple API request based on a JSON schema, and it failed miserably. Nothing super complicated either, it was just a poor fit. Both GPT3 and GPT4 repeatedly generated nonworking code, which surprised (and frustrated) me.

I've had astoundingly inconsistent results myself. Sometimes it'll write really elegant code that just nails the request. Other times it insists the task is impossible ("too complex"). Days later it'll do it without fuss. I suspect there's some sort of model shell game going on behind the scenes. The best results I get are always outside of business hours.

> Other times it insists the task is impossible ("too complex").

This is the lobotomization. It's interesting to watch the interviews with some red teamers and bing integration devs who had access before they did this to it. They are fully Blake Lemoine'd.

Re: Ask HN: How did ChatGPT4 blew your mind lately?

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As a side project I've been writing a tool that drives GPT4 for coding purposes. It finds FIXME comments and equips the LLM with a set of high level shell commands it can use to explore the codebase and edit the files. This works well and I find it superior to the (often semi-broken) chat UI that OpenAI provide. There's no need for copy paste, and it can be given instructions like

    // FIXME: Implement this class paying attention to the unit tests
at which point it will go look up the unit test class, read it, understand what the code needs to do and proceed to edit the necessary algorithms into the code. The tool is a mix of response parsing/execution and prompt building, so it can do builds/tests/fix cycles. At the end you get a git branch with the work it's done.

By this point I'm kinda developing an intuition for what GPT4 can and can't do, but whilst pushing against what it can do I still often find myself being impressed. Maybe not "mind blown" anymore because it's amazing how quickly you can get used to this stuff, but still. Not only does it do an excellent job of figuring out what to do when the instructions are clear enough, but it also has commands for adding library dependencies and will use relevant open source libs to make its job easier.

The hard part about using this sort of tool is that you can quickly become bottlenecked on figuring out what it is you actually want. It's easy to run ahead of yourself and end up with a mess. This sort of very rapid "painting with code" feel is a bit new; probably the slowness of typing allows your subconscious to think ahead a bit when doing programming normally. Also, I'm still teaching it how to explore the codebase efficiently so things that require a lot of context aren't quite there yet. I've got a whole plan for how to make that work better though.

I expect at some point soon some big company or some $100M "seed round" startup will come along and do this better, but I didn't want to wait.

Re: Ask HN: How did ChatGPT4 blew your mind lately?

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post #13

I see a lot of replies here talking about asking GPT questions in a domain an individual is an expert in, and being disappointed in the results. I think this is missing the point a bit. The impressive part of GPT isn’t that it’s an expert in anything, but that it’s better than an average human on many topics. For example - someone brought up GPT not comprehending homomorphic encryption fully. Well, I have a MS in CS…

I describe GPT as really good at bridging contexts. As you point out, it does a great job pointing you in the right direction on pretty much any topic. I was using it with my 7 yo daughter and asked it to explain calculus in a way a 7 yo could understand and it did a pretty good job.

Re: Ask HN: How did ChatGPT4 blew your mind lately?

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post #5

ChatGPT4 blew my mind when I asked it some specific details about my PhD thesis. It was a relative simple question, but you needed to know some domain knowledge to give the correct answer. ChatGPT not only gave a wrong answer, it completely made up a story was beyond repair. It is concerning (blew my mind) how confident ChatGPT can provide a completely wrong answer.

Interestingly, I asked about my field of research it just outputed a combination of the two open-access review papers for the field. It was nothing special, nor not completely correct, but it is the first time I've been able to pinpoint ChatGPTs source.

GPT4 seems to do a better job with not making up references than GPT3.5. Don't check the DOIs though

Re: Ask HN: How did ChatGPT4 blew your mind lately?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interestingly, I asked about my field of research it just outputed a combination of the two open-access review papers for the field. It was nothing special, nor not completely correct, but it is the first time I've been able to pinpoint ChatGPTs source.

GPT4 seems to do a better job with not making up references than GPT3.5. Don't check the DOIs though

Are those references just relevant sources, or actual citations?

For my example I knew of the sources already. ChatGPT didn't make the connection

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