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Re: Public Money, Public Code

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Post by tptacek »

EMIRELADERO wrote: post #150
tptacek wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Copyright is itself in the constitution.

Correct, but the 1st is stronger. This is why fair use even exists. In order to coexist with the first amendment, the copyright clause must allow some wiggle room for freedom of expression and balancing the rightsholder's interests with society's. Since these "safety valves" exist even for enforcement of the copyrights of private parties, a state government's enforcement would be even more, if not entirely thwarted b…

The Copyright Clause is explicit about the authority of Congress to grant exclusivity. You're not going to get anywhere with an argument that it contravenes the First Amendment. They were ratified almost simultaneously.

Re: Public Money, Public Code

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EMIRELADERO wrote: post #150
tptacek wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Copyright is itself in the constitution.

Correct, but the 1st is stronger. This is why fair use even exists. In order to coexist with the first amendment, the copyright clause must allow some wiggle room for freedom of expression and balancing the rightsholder's interests with society's. Since these "safety valves" exist even for enforcement of the copyrights of private parties, a state government's enforcement would be even more, if not entirely thwarted b…

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Re: Public Money, Public Code

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Post by tvararu »

RobotToaster wrote: post #83
nicbou wrote: post #77

I’ve heard those exact words from a government developer in Berlin and it felt really good to hear. Imagine making pull requests to improve government services! Some people would gladly do it.

I don't think it's everything, but the UK gov has a github account where you can do just that https://github.com/alphagov

alphagov is GOV.UK and shared services which are part of the "Government as a Platform" service line. Things like GOV.UK Notify (Twilio), GOV.UK Design System (Bootstrap), GOV.UK Service Manual (Ops manual), GOV.UK PaaS (Heroku, now defunct), and so on.

Every major UK government department has their own GitHub orgs:

- Healthcare, NHS: https://github.com/nhsuk/

- Education, DFE: https://github.com/DFE-Digital

- Justice, MOJ: https://github.com/ministryofjustice

- Taxes, HMRC: https://github.com/hmrc

And on and on the list goes.

Many things are private, but the 10th UK Government Design Principle is "make things open: it makes things better" https://www.gov.uk/guidance/government-design-principles#mak...

Re: Public Money, Public Code

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Post by bombolo »

GabeIsko wrote: post #142
bombolo wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Would AWS release all their source code to retain their largest customer, the US government? Yes. Companies would comply with whatever requirement to have the US government as a customer.

They could sue, they could drop them as a client and not bid, they could offer reduced services like they already do with gov cloud, there are a lot of ways this could play out. Apple has shown that private corporations aren't ready to blindly comply with the US government if it doest suit their business interests.

Apple wasn't selling to the US government. They just received a request from a tribunal. There was no money for them in that.

Completely different situation.

Re: Public Money, Public Code

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Post by robinwassen »

kulikalov wrote: post #107

How about Public Money, Public Data? For instance, there’s a whole industry around finding public legal information about companies. State’s websites offer throttled database access, some offer data for free, but most selling it for dozens of thousands of dollars (officially)

Public data is not always that nice.

In Sweden most government data is public which includes individuals tax records.

That generates things such as news articles "The 50 people in your area that had the highest income last year" with home address and everything and that you can look up income instantly on the web.

Some level of privacy for this would be nice to have.

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