Monoliths are not dinosaurs

Post by Aeolun » Sat, May 06, 2023, 1:11 AM UTC

jabradoodle wrote: post #21

quadrifoliate wrote: post #18

Like most articles in distributed systems, this makes wild assumptions about the most important, i.e. the human layer. I would bet $100 that this is written by the same sort of person who thinks "Managers – what do they do all day exactly?" [1] > If you hire the best engineers.... Guess what, there is no broad consensus on what "best engineer" means. I bet your org is rejecting really good engineers right now because…

Their point on hiring the best engineers was specifically about not following the hype, and allowing engineers to engineer. Also, they never claimed technical superiority of microservices, quote: > For example, a startup with five engineers may choose a monolithic architecture because it is easier to deploy and doesn’t require their small team to learn multiple programming languages.

Post by hikawaii » Sat, May 06, 2023, 1:24 AM UTC

paulddraper wrote: post #37

Software would be 50% better if every developer understood Tesler's Law: "Complexity can neither be created nor destroyed, only moved somewhere else." The drive to simplify is virtuous, but often people are blind to the complexity that it adds. Okay, so your microservices are each very simple, but that made the interactions and resource provisioning very complex. What was the net gain? The correct solution depends on…

Post by bedobi » Sat, May 06, 2023, 1:39 AM UTC

gabereiser wrote: post #54

asdfman123 wrote: post #13

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Bad coding is infinitely worse than a “bad” language. I don’t know how many of you are musicians, but many people are surprised to find that the tone quality of a guitar has way more to do with the person playing it than the way it was built.

A great player can make a Squire sound like a Studio Strat. Indeed. The type of strings make a difference too.

Post by orange8 » Sat, May 06, 2023, 1:58 AM UTC

Aeolun wrote: post #45

keyle wrote: post #32

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There is no going back. The industry has seen a 5X raise in money and people. It's only natural that a job that used to take 2 now takes 10 people because of those facts. And I agree. We've traded safety and a few other things that could have been ironed out in exchange of massive gridlocks, headaches and colossal facepalms. Performance is only on par if you consider the hardware improvements, it's crazy.

If you can have a monolith for $500/month with a team of 2, or a distributed system for $50,000/month with a team of 50, what manager in their right mind would choose the former. Zero prestige in that.

Post by MathMonkeyMan » Sat, May 06, 2023, 2:03 AM UTC

asdfman123 wrote: post #52

Aeolun wrote: post #50

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Try building software that doesn’t match the political structure. I guarantee you will regret it. You’ll constantly be dealing with all the problems because nobody else will care.

Sounds like a way to spend a lot of your time doing “cross functional work.”