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Apple’s Unionized Store Wants to Start Accepting Tips from Customers

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Re: Apple’s Unionized Store Wants to Start Accepting Tips from Customers

#51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah isn't it literally your basic minimum job requirement to be showing people the capabilities of an iphone? You want me to buy your product, YOU show me why I should want it.

the point is who pays for this 'service' work? Apple? the corporation designing the devices being potentially bought or you? the potential customer paying with a tip to the store's employee??

Apple doesn't include manuals for their devices like the old days. They are left to be discovered by users on their own. Apple should be the one paying for this 'service' work because they don't include manuals.

Re: Apple’s Unionized Store Wants to Start Accepting Tips from Customers

#53

Fuck that. Tipping culture is ridiculous as it is. No way in hell someone deserves a tip showing you the capabilities of an iphone. Especially not with the current POS systems that ask for a minimum of 20%.

> the current POS systems that ask for a minimum of 20%.

My rule is to only ever tip with cash and only then directly into the hands of the worker. Tipping through a computer system is a scam, the business owner almost certainly takes most of it. If you're paying with a credit card, X out the tip field and leave cash instead.

And of course, never tip in cases where it isn't customary to tip. Waitresses, bartenders, barbers and taxi drivers. That's about it. Tipping into tip jars is never customary, don't do it. Never tip at a starbucks or a business where you get your own food at the counter. And you sure as hell should never tip a salesman, these Apple store workers have lost the plot.

Re: Apple’s Unionized Store Wants to Start Accepting Tips from Customers

#54

Title is clickbait, which this entire thread has fallen for. Tipping is mentioned in two paragraphs out of an entire article worth of eminently reasonable requests and terms. Who knows what the actual context is. Maybe this was a half-hearted idea that was tossed into a long list. Bloomberg just chose to zero in on it as a title to make the union seem deranged. > The workers’ negotiators also want Apple to adopt a ti…

Tipping on electronics purchases is deranged.

Re: Apple’s Unionized Store Wants to Start Accepting Tips from Customers

#56

Title is clickbait, which this entire thread has fallen for. Tipping is mentioned in two paragraphs out of an entire article worth of eminently reasonable requests and terms. Who knows what the actual context is. Maybe this was a half-hearted idea that was tossed into a long list. Bloomberg just chose to zero in on it as a title to make the union seem deranged. > The workers’ negotiators also want Apple to adopt a ti…

If the union wants to be taken seriously, then it needs to make serious proposals. The rest of the proposal is dog-bites-man, which isn't really news. This is so far out in left field that of course it is news. It may be a small piece of the proposal, and perhaps even a negotiating tactic, but it makes the union look unreasonable and impossibly out of touch.

It’s one minor point. I think HN’s hatred of tipping culture has been triggered and all of this is a disproportionate response about a point that will likely get dropped in the first round of negotiations.

Re: Apple’s Unionized Store Wants to Start Accepting Tips from Customers

#57
I'm glad I finished eating my breakfast before reading that headline. I'm heartily in support of unions, it's great that they have one. Now use it and get what you want out of Apple instead of rattling a cup at people who walk into a store.

I have never been in an Apple store myself, I'm sure the people there work hard and that it's quite demanding (which is why I support their having a union). But I also hate tip culture and American society's constant requests for money. Every place you go has a tip jar out. Every retailer puts on price on the shelf and then adds on tax and fees at the register, so that I have to do pointless mental arithmetic as I shop (especially annoying for groceries where there are many different items and prices fluctuate frequently). Every political campaign asks people for cash with a frequency that would make a Nigerian scammer blush. Every large nonprofit seems to spend an increasingly large % of its intake on further fundraising.

I am not rich myself and I prioritize my charitable giving towards people I see that are in need but not asking for money. There's a lot of people who are not in desperate need (or sometimes in any great need at all, eg many political campaigns) and are constantly asking for money. This society disgusts me sometimes.

Re: Apple’s Unionized Store Wants to Start Accepting Tips from Customers

#60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah isn't it literally your basic minimum job requirement to be showing people the capabilities of an iphone? You want me to buy your product, YOU show me why I should want it.

the point is who pays for this 'service' work? Apple? the corporation designing the devices being potentially bought or you? the potential customer paying with a tip to the store's employee??

Apple. Definitely Apple.
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