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Re: I found the best anagram in English (2017)

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Post by hliyan » Fri, May 05, 2023, 6:39 AM UTC

kthejoker2 wrote: post #17

kmoser wrote: post #6

That was pretty good for a one-word anagram. Back in the 1990s I wrote a program that generated anagrams for longer phrases and I was surprised to find these prescient ones: Saddam Hussein = He damns Saudis Charles Manson = Slasher con man David Letterman = Dead mitral vent Mary Jo Kopechne = My joke chaperon * Benito Mussolini = So, I bout Leninism Lee Harvey Oswald = Oe, why ever Dallas? * * "Chaperon" is a valid a…

Clint Eastwood = Old West Action is still my favorite serendiptious anagram. I also like the mathematically correct ELEVEN PLUS TWO = TWELVE PLUS ONE especially because it's also an numeric anagram 11 + 2 = 12 + 1

Mother in law = Woman Hitler is another classic

Re: I found the best anagram in English (2017)

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Post by albert_e » Fri, May 05, 2023, 6:40 AM UTC

fingerlocks wrote: post #10

I thought integrals / triangles was much more interesting, despite the shorter length. None of the other long pairs have any meaningful relationship, except for maybe excitation / intoxicate

What you don't think all married people are admirers of sidearms /s

> 7 admirer married > 7 admires sidearm

Re: I found the best anagram in English (2017)

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Post by tgv » Fri, May 05, 2023, 6:45 AM UTC

dmurray wrote: post #19

bawolff wrote: post #11

Feels like the edit distance algorithm would be the natural fit here for scoring.

How does that do on the longest example found by the author, which he (correctly IMO) dismisses as uninteresting? cholecystoduodenostomy / duodenocholecystostomy

Trigram overlap is a better measure.

Re: I found the best anagram in English (2017)

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Post by irrational » Fri, May 05, 2023, 6:46 AM UTC

> I wouldn't have mentioned this, but someone on StackExchange actually asked this question.

I wonder if the author realizes how condescending this is.

Re: I found the best anagram in English (2017)

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Post by yantrams » Fri, May 05, 2023, 6:47 AM UTC

While I personally agree with the end result - cinematographer megachiropteran possibly being the best anagram, its worth exploring other scoring mechanisms I suppose - some kind of alliteration / cadence score to quantify how the words roll in succession. Maybe throw in semantic distance as well using clip embeddings probably to quantify the surprise element (or closeness for that matter). Gonna play around with this and see what I can do.

Re: I found the best anagram in English (2017)

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Post by _jholland » Fri, May 05, 2023, 6:50 AM UTC

This is great! It reminds me of a Tom7 video of a similar ilk: Anagrams, but where you can break apart letters: "Anagraphs" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTBAW-Eh0tM.

Similar to this, he produces a standard form for each word, but breaks each letter into letter pieces or 'atoms' which gives much more freedom for moving between words.

Definitely give it a watch. If you are not familiar with Tom7's videos, he has a hilarious whimsical style while also bringing to life completely out there ideas with some brilliant technical skill.

Re: I found the best anagram in English (2017)

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Post by bitwize » Fri, May 05, 2023, 7:08 AM UTC

Megachiropterans are fruit bats. They are really stinking adorable, especially when compared to smaller insect-eating bats, and for that reason are sometimes called flying foxes. In short, they make good subjects for cinematographers.

Re: I found the best anagram in English (2017)

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Post by _atnl » Fri, May 05, 2023, 7:28 AM UTC

zw123456 wrote: post #7

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It just searched Bing and loaded up this very article. And man I'm getting really sick of the unrelated ChatGPT comments on literally every post, no offense.

Re: I found the best anagram in English (2017)

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Post by carlob » Fri, May 05, 2023, 7:38 AM UTC

kmoser wrote: post #6

That was pretty good for a one-word anagram. Back in the 1990s I wrote a program that generated anagrams for longer phrases and I was surprised to find these prescient ones: Saddam Hussein = He damns Saudis Charles Manson = Slasher con man David Letterman = Dead mitral vent Mary Jo Kopechne = My joke chaperon * Benito Mussolini = So, I bout Leninism Lee Harvey Oswald = Oe, why ever Dallas? * * "Chaperon" is a valid a…

Yeah but chaperon would be masculine and chaperone feminine.

Re: I found the best anagram in English (2017)

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Post by weedfroglozenge » Fri, May 05, 2023, 7:43 AM UTC

One of the longest anagrams I know that doesn't involve obscure medical words is "astronomers" and "moon starers." Both of these phrases contain the same letters but in a different order, making them anagrams of each other. This anagram contains 11 letters and is quite interesting, as both phrases relate to looking up at the night sky and studying celestial bodies.

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