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The Shootings at Kent State: The Search for Historical Accuracy (1998)

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Armed soldiers wheeled and fired en masse on unarmed protestors yet none of them faced legal penalty. The state of Ohio paid compensation. Because the soldiers "feared for their lives." I'm sure it was scary, but maybe we need braver national guardsmen. Official ass covering after official violence is a long tradition.

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Re: The Shootings at Kent State: The Search for Historical Accuracy (1998)

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Armed soldiers wheeled and fired en masse on unarmed protestors yet none of them faced legal penalty. The state of Ohio paid compensation. Because the soldiers "feared for their lives." I'm sure it was scary, but maybe we need braver national guardsmen. Official ass covering after official violence is a long tradition.

It's as american as apple pie to use state violence on innocent and largely peaceful protestors and then just pretend it's no big deal. Remember the time unmarked soldiers were pulling people off the street in Portland? Or when peaceful protestors were disbursed with force so the president could take a picture while holding a bible upsidedown? Or Waco. Or the battle of Blair Mountain. Or the Tulsa Race Massacre. Amer…

Government abuse is not uniquely American. Practically every state in history has abused its monopoly on violence to shut down political dissent.

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Not even mentioned is Sihanouk, who had ruled neutral Cambodia since 1941 under various positions, was overthrown in a CIA-sponsored coup in the days before the US invasion of Cambodia. This had the effect of destabilizing Cambodia for the next couple of years.

“ Once you’ve been to Cambodia, you’ll never stop wanting to beat Henry Kissinger to death with your bare hands. You will never again be able to open a newspaper and read about that treacherous, prevaricating, murderous scumbag sitting down for a nice chat with Charlie Rose or attending some black-tie affair for a new glossy magazine without choking. Witness what Henry did in Cambodia – the fruits of his genius for s…

After reading this I knew he was aligned with Christopher Hitchens and sure enough…

Re: The Shootings at Kent State: The Search for Historical Accuracy (1998)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's as american as apple pie to use state violence on innocent and largely peaceful protestors and then just pretend it's no big deal. Remember the time unmarked soldiers were pulling people off the street in Portland? Or when peaceful protestors were disbursed with force so the president could take a picture while holding a bible upsidedown? Or Waco. Or the battle of Blair Mountain. Or the Tulsa Race Massacre. Amer…

Government abuse is not uniquely American. Practically every state in history has abused its monopoly on violence to shut down political dissent.

Americans are unique in that they believe their government cowers in fear of the pistols they keep under their pillows, and that theirs is the only truly free nation in the world, where tyranny can never occur.

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I'm surprised the article doesn't show "the picture": https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2021/05/19/kent-state-shooti...

Given the source and the picture's content, I'm pretty sure they'd really prefer not to.

There are probably still faculty and staff working there who met that kid.

Re: The Shootings at Kent State: The Search for Historical Accuracy (1998)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Government abuse is not uniquely American. Practically every state in history has abused its monopoly on violence to shut down political dissent.

Americans are unique in that they believe their government cowers in fear of the pistols they keep under their pillows, and that theirs is the only truly free nation in the world, where tyranny can never occur.

Correct. Where in reality if you brandish a gun at the authority for long enough, it eventually responds by dropping a bomb on your roof.

(... we still remember it, Philadelphia).

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