This isn't news. The link between schizophrenia and cannabis use was known in mental health world before it was ever made illegal. The legalization crowd wouldn't promote that. The news is the problem is increasing and a 3 in 10 chance of males becoming schizophrenic is a reason to avoid it. Now I wonder what the correlation of cannabis use to active shooter incidents is?
Heavy marijuana use increases schizophrenia in men, study finds
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As soon as it's legalized.
Cannabis might be bad for your health, but the most significant consequences of cannabis use are getting arrested and losing your job.
As long as that's a risk, and as long as people use health concerns as an excuse to take away other people's freedom, we can't have an honest conversation about it.
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#33I like the idea of capping THC potency (delta-9), what we have now isn't what we the general public aimed to legalize this is just competition keeping up with consumer demand the consequences should fall on the vendors and growers on a licensing perspective, just like alcohol or food vending
What we have now isn't what we the general public aimed to legalize I don't think the general public knows (or cares) much about potency, actually. Also, they were plenty aware that legalization wouldn't stop a certain segment of the population from harming themselves through overconsumption, no matter what was done to try to convince them otherwise.
>I don't think the general public knows (or cares) much about potency, actually.
Disagree. I think recreational cannabis users are well aware of potency. Here in Canada, all cannabis products have the THC/CBD content on the label, and our shops offer strengths across the spectrum, according to preferences.
Admittedly, some users will get "the strongest available", but the people I know have specific preferences. Having this information available to consumers is one of the best things about regulating the trade.
Re: Heavy marijuana use increases schizophrenia in men, study finds
#34I like the idea of capping THC potency (delta-9), what we have now isn't what we the general public aimed to legalize this is just competition keeping up with consumer demand the consequences should fall on the vendors and growers on a licensing perspective, just like alcohol or food vending
I like the idea of not capping anything. Live and let live.
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#35I really recommend people interested in Schizophrenia to read the book “Hidden Valley Road”. I saw it recommended in a HN comment previously. The book follows an American family who gave birth to 12 children, 6 of whom were later diagnosed with schizophrenia in their teens. It’s interesting because the book gives lots of insight into the historical to modern research on the condition. In the past psychologists though…
Did the study control for race then if genetics are a cause? ie other studies have shown those of ashkenazi descent are more likely to be schizophrenic.
I hope this isn’t taken the wrong way - id very much like to know if my genetic ancestry made me more or less susceptible to things like schizophrenia.
Re: Heavy marijuana use increases schizophrenia in men, study finds
#36This isn't news. The link between schizophrenia and cannabis use was known in mental health world before it was ever made illegal. The legalization crowd wouldn't promote that. The news is the problem is increasing and a 3 in 10 chance of males becoming schizophrenic is a reason to avoid it. Now I wonder what the correlation of cannabis use to active shooter incidents is?
The “3 in 10” in the article refers to the rate of developing cannabis use disorder, not schizophrenia.
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As soon as it's legalized. Cannabis might be bad for your health, but the most significant consequences of cannabis use are getting arrested and losing your job. As long as that's a risk, and as long as people use health concerns as an excuse to take away other people's freedom, we can't have an honest conversation about it.
I saw a comedy clip recently:
> Pot doesn't make me paranoid, pot being illegal makes me paranoid
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think more important than that is capping the THC/CBD ratio. The first time I took an edible it was pure THC, and even at 15mg it almost gave me a panic attack. For a long time I was baffled that anyone could actually enjoy marijuana, until I tried something with three times as much CBD as THC, and then I got the same enjoyable experience as others seem to. Which makes sense: biologically, THC is the psychosis agon…
15mg THC is 3x as much as I’d suggest to someone that doesn't use edibles no matter how familiar they are with smoking
Agreed, it's surprising to me that I've met many people who claim that edibles are terrible/terrifying. They often don't know how much they took and if they do it's usually way too much for the first time.
I suspect it's a combination of bad design (a single gummy being >=10mg) and the fact that most people just don't read and comprehend the labels.
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#39I like the idea of capping THC potency (delta-9), what we have now isn't what we the general public aimed to legalize this is just competition keeping up with consumer demand the consequences should fall on the vendors and growers on a licensing perspective, just like alcohol or food vending
I like the idea of not capping anything. Live and let live.
This will likely lead to a competitive race of stronger and stronger potency. Market dynamics aren't neutral.
Re: Heavy marijuana use increases schizophrenia in men, study finds
#40I really recommend people interested in Schizophrenia to read the book “Hidden Valley Road”. I saw it recommended in a HN comment previously. The book follows an American family who gave birth to 12 children, 6 of whom were later diagnosed with schizophrenia in their teens. It’s interesting because the book gives lots of insight into the historical to modern research on the condition. In the past psychologists though…
Genetic cause is often what is claimed of things that are not very well understood at all.
Myopia being one of them for instance. (it's actually often an adaptation process that is actually found to be reversible)
Wrt SZ, not only is it very badly understood but a lot of the symptoms can be attributed to biochemical disorders and that does not necessarily imply a genetic predisposition at all.
Caffeine can induce psychosis, so can THC. For instance, caffeine is an adenosine antagonist, which itself is a dopamine antagonist.
So from a DSM pov, a lot many people can be diagnosed SZ when in fact, the amplitude of the disorder is caused by repeated psychoactive substance abuse.
Even owning a cat (parasites) is thought to be a possible cause for schizophrenia.
Then again, who knows what lies in people heads too? Perhaps that the thoughts they hear are real and some people just can't process it properly which drive them to do strange things. We discount people's experience but there are so little ways to non-intrusively explore people's internal state. A true scientist wouldn't discount that possibility too.