Next.js 13.4

#1

Post by leerob » Thu, May 04, 2023, 3:53 PM UTC

Re: Next.js 13.4

#2

Post by edgyquant » Thu, May 04, 2023, 4:11 PM UTC

I like working with next but some of these changes in 13 kinda suck. Router especially, I inherited a codebase that didn't wrap a lot of functionality so hard changes to the way useRouter works from 12 to 13 means I can't reasonably upgrade anytime soon.

Re: Next.js 13.4

#3

Post by nickisnoble » Thu, May 04, 2023, 4:30 PM UTC

Annoying that they hyped up this live keynote, and then it was all previous / pre-recorded announcements.

I figured with all the other releases, this keynote would show something really big — maybe they should've saved the databases reveal.

Instead we get "the thing we announced months ago is out of beta".

Vercel, you've been inconsiderate with my time.

Re: Next.js 13.4

#4

Post by 0xblinq » Thu, May 04, 2023, 4:30 PM UTC

It's astonishing how complex this has become. All the server component stuff is great technologically speaking and if you're using React, it's a very welcome thing as this will lead in the long term to less bloated applications for end users.

But as a developer I just can't stand all the complexity and the magic going on. And now a React compiler is on its way too. This is just too much.

Re: Next.js 13.4

#5

Post by benatkin » Thu, May 04, 2023, 4:31 PM UTC

edgyquant wrote: post #2

I like working with next but some of these changes in 13 kinda suck. Router especially, I inherited a codebase that didn't wrap a lot of functionality so hard changes to the way useRouter works from 12 to 13 means I can't reasonably upgrade anytime soon.

I was curious, so I took a look:

https://nextjs.org/docs/app/building-your-application/upgrad...

Depending on the app it could be easy or difficult.

Re: Next.js 13.4

#6

Post by cranglin » Thu, May 04, 2023, 4:34 PM UTC

I've been using the App Router beta for a few months on a pre-production project. No major complaints and I can see the vision. However, I (understandably) had a big issue with implementing Algolia Instant Search SSR into it. Fingers-crossed that 3rd party libraries launch support for it soon.

Re: Next.js 13.4

#7

Post by leerob » Thu, May 04, 2023, 4:37 PM UTC

nickisnoble wrote: post #3

Annoying that they hyped up this live keynote, and then it was all previous / pre-recorded announcements. I figured with all the other releases, this keynote would show something really big — maybe they should've saved the databases reveal. Instead we get "the thing we announced months ago is out of beta". Vercel, you've been inconsiderate with my time.

The keynote was the summary of the entire week, which included the intro/outro, visual editing section, and the Next.js section which were new. A lot of folks were just tuning in today, versus the start of the week, but yeah, I can empathize with there being some parts that overlap. We'll be publishing more Next.js content here in the coming weeks around the new features as well.

Re: Next.js 13.4

#8

Post by leerob » Thu, May 04, 2023, 4:38 PM UTC

cranglin wrote: post #6

I've been using the App Router beta for a few months on a pre-production project. No major complaints and I can see the vision. However, I (understandably) had a big issue with implementing Algolia Instant Search SSR into it. Fingers-crossed that 3rd party libraries launch support for it soon.

That's a good flag. I'll reach out to the Algolia team to talk about this.

Re: Next.js 13.4

#9

Post by kylehotchkiss » Thu, May 04, 2023, 4:40 PM UTC

A big benefit of the pages folder is the ability to statically generate content on build time and deploy, then getting the performance benefit of being a static site. Does/will the app folder allow for the same static generation capability? Seeing `Is the pages directory going away?` in the release notes to me seems like a hint that the pages directory may be going away.

Re: Next.js 13.4

#10

Post by benatkin » Thu, May 04, 2023, 4:41 PM UTC

nickisnoble wrote: post #3

Annoying that they hyped up this live keynote, and then it was all previous / pre-recorded announcements. I figured with all the other releases, this keynote would show something really big — maybe they should've saved the databases reveal. Instead we get "the thing we announced months ago is out of beta". Vercel, you've been inconsiderate with my time.

> live keynote, and then it was all previous / pre-recorded announcements

Those appear to be mostly equivalent if you're watching it online.

If you don't feel they're almost equivalent, lockdown might have been easier. Personally I find online conferences disappointing and only watch if it's the same sort of content I would watch in a simple video.