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Facebook has not been doing enough to comply with a 2020 privacy order: FTC

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Re: Facebook has not been doing enough to comply with a 2020 privacy order: FTC

#181

How can a corporation be furious? After reading the article, they don't say anything about the company or people inside the company being furious. The closest thing I could find is that a Meta spokesperson said they plan to fight it vigorously and expect to win. Maybe the headline should be "Meta opposed to proposed FTC ban on monetizing youth data".

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Re: Facebook has not been doing enough to comply with a 2020 privacy order: FTC

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The headline here is the government of the United States has alleged that Meta has violated an existing privacy order severely enough that they should not be allowed to retain data on children at all, that they've lied to parents about what they are doing with their kids data, and that bugs or mistakenly applied product features had enabled kids to message with strangers despite promises that the product was not able…

Headlines are often determined by SEO/engagement folks rather than the actual writers, unfortunately.

Subeditors have been writing headlines for engagement since you had a crank a handle to print a newspaper.

Re: Facebook has not been doing enough to comply with a 2020 privacy order: FTC

#184

How come FTC keeps coming back at this one company? Whereas TikTok and others having business as normal

Every comment from this account is defending or advocating for Meta or one of its products. Don't drink the Kool-aid, folks!

Re: Facebook has not been doing enough to comply with a 2020 privacy order: FTC

#185
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or it was lobbied for by a competitor.

So? People lobby for all sorts of stuff. The existence of lobbyists doesn’t tell you if a proposed policy is good or bad.

That is a good point. We have to take wins when we get them. Getting the oligarchy to fight each other to our benefit is a nice turn of the tables. We should keep our eye on there competition as well though. Meta's whataboutism referencing tiktok wasn't baseless, it just isn't a valid excuse.

Re: Facebook has not been doing enough to comply with a 2020 privacy order: FTC

#186

How come FTC keeps coming back at this one company? Whereas TikTok and others having business as normal

This is the equivalent of someone complaining to the policeman that pulled them over for speeding that another car just sped past them and he's not giving them a ticket too.

Re: Facebook has not been doing enough to comply with a 2020 privacy order: FTC

#187
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Breaking things was a core mantra of theirs for a while, right?

It was, but they could not then move fast enough to escape the law.

But many of us, enjoy the benefits their agility gave birth to. Let's hope they learned lessons and will be improving their ways. I guess no one plans to get in trouble at first. Consequences become highest price for innovation. Highlighting failures and calling for punishment constantly would stop everyone trying to innovate.

Re: Facebook has not been doing enough to comply with a 2020 privacy order: FTC

#188

How can a corporation be furious? After reading the article, they don't say anything about the company or people inside the company being furious. The closest thing I could find is that a Meta spokesperson said they plan to fight it vigorously and expect to win. Maybe the headline should be "Meta opposed to proposed FTC ban on monetizing youth data".

Because corporations are people and people are data.

Re: Facebook has not been doing enough to comply with a 2020 privacy order: FTC

#189

Mark Zuckerberg himself seems to understand the importance of privacy very well, taping over the microphone and camera on his MacBook Pro, keeping his trash can from being scavenged by others, and FB spending heavily to protect his security, so why does he have the exact opposite attitude towards others?

He isn’t forcing you to use Facebook. If you go into a store and they have a security camera that records you is that also violating your privacy? Not saying everything FB does is ok but I think we are going too crazy with the government intervention. I don’t exactly see that FB was committing deliberate fraud based on this latest report (but a lot is redacted). It seems more like there were just some bugs? As a dev…

>He isn’t forcing you to use Facebook. If you go into a store and they have a security camera that records you is that also violating your privacy?

A closed circuit camera system that exists for the purpose of helping to prevent or resolve any criminal issues and is otherwise not used for anything else is far different from tracking non-FB users (eg, "he isn't forcing you to use Facebook") and profiling them via trackers embedded on websites that you may use even without a FB account.

Re: Facebook has not been doing enough to comply with a 2020 privacy order: FTC

#190

How come FTC keeps coming back at this one company? Whereas TikTok and others having business as normal

Well, FB does have ~2BB euros set aside to pay for EU fines in 2023. So not just the FTC!

Hopefully, this will prevent all of the comments that say EU only fine them because they don't like US companies.
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