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Facebook has not been doing enough to comply with a 2020 privacy order: FTC

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Re: Facebook has not been doing enough to comply with a 2020 privacy order: FTC

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> “Facebook has repeatedly violated its privacy promises,” Samuel Levine, director of the FTC’s Bureau of Consumer Protection, said in a press release. If you're pissing off Facebook, you're probably doing something right.

Have we gotten to the point where "bad for Facebook" ~= "good for society"? It's both a good indicator for progress and a sad place to be as a community.

When that wasn't true ?

Re: Facebook has not been doing enough to comply with a 2020 privacy order: FTC

#12

> “Facebook has repeatedly violated its privacy promises,” Samuel Levine, director of the FTC’s Bureau of Consumer Protection, said in a press release. If you're pissing off Facebook, you're probably doing something right.

Unfortunately, it's probably more of a shake down/way to get more campaign contributions.

Or it was lobbied for by a competitor.

Re: Facebook has not been doing enough to comply with a 2020 privacy order: FTC

#14

> “Facebook has repeatedly violated its privacy promises,” Samuel Levine, director of the FTC’s Bureau of Consumer Protection, said in a press release. If you're pissing off Facebook, you're probably doing something right.

Have we gotten to the point where "bad for Facebook" ~= "good for society"? It's both a good indicator for progress and a sad place to be as a community.

...Wait, so you thought there was ever a point when "good for Facebook" == "good for society"?

IMO "bad for Facebook" ~= "good for society" has always been true.

It's not a "sad place to be as community", they are a corp and their bait-and-switch was expected ever since they got created, at least from the people who don't idolize corporations that is. It was extremely obvious they'll position themselves as helpful, pull tons of people in, and will then start to make use of all that precious data.

It would boggle my mind if somebody was actually surprised by this.

Re: Facebook has not been doing enough to comply with a 2020 privacy order: FTC

#15
How can a corporation be furious? After reading the article, they don't say anything about the company or people inside the company being furious. The closest thing I could find is that a Meta spokesperson said they plan to fight it vigorously and expect to win.

Maybe the headline should be "Meta opposed to proposed FTC ban on monetizing youth data".

Re: Facebook has not been doing enough to comply with a 2020 privacy order: FTC

#16
Since there is bound to be a lot of Facebook bashing I’ll point out that they occasionally do some good. In the case of software they can be good stewards of FOSS.

I listened to this CoRecursive episode about the history of Zstandard compression algorithm and how FB allowed the author, Yann Collet, to fully open source it while other companies wanted to keep it proprietary.

https://corecursive.com/data-compression-yann-collet/

This doesn’t justify or make up for the wrongs that happen because of the social network but the company, and the reasons they want to work there, can be more nuanced.

Re: Facebook has not been doing enough to comply with a 2020 privacy order: FTC

#17
I don't know why my opinion is so out of the mainstream but I really think it's good that people's information is used vs not used... I think it's a great boon for ads to become more relevant instead of less relevant. Wasting time looking at ads that aren't for me sucks, it's much better if they could actually improve my life. Literally think making children have less relevant ads is doing them harm.

Re: Facebook has not been doing enough to comply with a 2020 privacy order: FTC

#18

I don't know why my opinion is so out of the mainstream but I really think it's good that people's information is used vs not used... I think it's a great boon for ads to become more relevant instead of less relevant. Wasting time looking at ads that aren't for me sucks, it's much better if they could actually improve my life. Literally think making children have less relevant ads is doing them harm.

You should pitch your local college on giving a master class in sarcasm

Re: Facebook has not been doing enough to comply with a 2020 privacy order: FTC

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have we gotten to the point where "bad for Facebook" ~= "good for society"? It's both a good indicator for progress and a sad place to be as a community.

We'd be better off without Facebook, Twitter, TikTok and Instagram. Anything that hurts these businesses probably helps society. There is just no big benefit to justify the amount of damage done to mental health and privacy.

You forgot Snap.

Re: Facebook has not been doing enough to comply with a 2020 privacy order: FTC

#20

I don't know why my opinion is so out of the mainstream but I really think it's good that people's information is used vs not used... I think it's a great boon for ads to become more relevant instead of less relevant. Wasting time looking at ads that aren't for me sucks, it's much better if they could actually improve my life. Literally think making children have less relevant ads is doing them harm.

Ads are not “relevant,” or not. They are effective or not.

Generally effective means manipulative. Screening children from this seems quite beneficial at first glance.

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