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Re: Gitlab and Google Cloud Partner to Expand AI-Assisted Capabilities

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Post by sofixa »

visarga wrote: post #18

Maybe GCP, Azure and AWS could pull together the text to train a language model to tell us how to deal with their fucking stupid UIs and arcane terminology. I dread having to use their cloud portals. How do you find a VM by IP address in Azure? that kind of thing.

First, their UI and UX are very different. Azure is by far the worst (as in pretty much all categories) - even their docs suck, with random broken links (even the links to switch the language of the exemple code) and very weird naming schemes, let alone the actual cloud UI. GCP and AWS are quite decent (for AWS you need to know a bit about how they organise things or use the search, but still).

> How do you find a VM by IP address in Azure?

The point is that you probably don't need to/shouldn't. IPs are ephemeral, don't matter and can easily change, and shouldn't be used for anything like identity.

Re: Gitlab and Google Cloud Partner to Expand AI-Assisted Capabilities

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Post by capableweb »

chocolatkey wrote: post #15
0000000000100 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bizarre choice for a domain huh, googlecloudpresscorner.com… With all the domains in the world, they pick one that almost looks fake. Why not presscorner.google.com? (Or why not their TLD…) Anyways, I look forward to some new improvements in Gitlab. Seems a little vague on the details, but I think some different flavors of LLMs should prove interesting. Seems likely it’d spit out different results than what OpenAI mi…

I think it's due to cookies. That's why there's e.g. googleusercontent.com, ggpht.com etc. That way if users find a way to upload malicious content (or e.g. blog is compromised) you can't get users' Google cookies

They have their own tld, .goog, they could surely have put the website under their instead to at least gain some trust, instead of the current abomination of a domain.

Or, you know, just use subdomains which has existed since forever...

Re: Gitlab and Google Cloud Partner to Expand AI-Assisted Capabilities

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Post by sofixa »

pmoriarty wrote: post #29
chocolatkey wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's due to cookies. That's why there's e.g. googleusercontent.com, ggpht.com etc. That way if users find a way to upload malicious content (or e.g. blog is compromised) you can't get users' Google cookies

I'm kind of surprised Google would even bother with cookies these days, as there are so many other ways to track users.

It's not for tracking, it's for sessions (you know, one of the original purposes of cookies).

Re: Gitlab and Google Cloud Partner to Expand AI-Assisted Capabilities

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Post by belltaco »

sofixa wrote: post #49
jraph wrote: post #25

> GitLab is working with Google Cloud because of its strong commitment to privacy Right. I guess they'll also deal with Qualcomm for their strong commitment to openness, and Russia for its strong commitment to democracy.

That's a bit unfair, you shouldn't confuse Google (the b2c services that collect a ton of user data to deliver ads) and Google Cloud Platform. GCP is genuinely quite open. Whereas AWS have the habit of creating proprietary services/making proprietary changes to open source stuff, a lot of what GCP does is based on open source and open standards, done in public, which they themselves push for. Some of their flagship s…

Their products for businesses also used to spy on them, so it's hard to build trust again.

https://www.edweek.org/policy-politics/google-under-fire-for...

Re: Gitlab and Google Cloud Partner to Expand AI-Assisted Capabilities

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Post by pid-1 »

atonse wrote: post #32

How quickly things change. I read this as “poor Gitlab had to use whatever janky crap Google can put together” - never mind that Google was a leader in the AI space for years. They completely missed this boat and are instantly looking out of touch. After 5 years of using gitlab, we’re planning to switch back to GitHub exactly because of copilot and the Polish of their other features. The only hesitation is the SSO ta…

After GitLab's price hikes I've checked their income statements and decided to leave as well.

I'm playing with self hosted Gitea and enjoying so far. Really easy to admin and supports oauth2. It doesn't have all GitLab DevSecOps stuff nor powerful project management features, but we never used those in the first place.

Finally, given current market risks, having less vendors is a huge win.

Re: Gitlab and Google Cloud Partner to Expand AI-Assisted Capabilities

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Post by beebmam »

sofixa wrote: post #49
jraph wrote: post #25

> GitLab is working with Google Cloud because of its strong commitment to privacy Right. I guess they'll also deal with Qualcomm for their strong commitment to openness, and Russia for its strong commitment to democracy.

That's a bit unfair, you shouldn't confuse Google (the b2c services that collect a ton of user data to deliver ads) and Google Cloud Platform. GCP is genuinely quite open. Whereas AWS have the habit of creating proprietary services/making proprietary changes to open source stuff, a lot of what GCP does is based on open source and open standards, done in public, which they themselves push for. Some of their flagship s…

Google is not an open company so it's impossible to conclude that your statements are accurate based on evidence.

Re: Gitlab and Google Cloud Partner to Expand AI-Assisted Capabilities

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Post by TeMPOraL »

atonse wrote: post #48
john_cogs wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GitLab team member here. We published a blog post[0] yesterday that provides an overview of some features you may be interested in: Code Suggestions, Summarize MR Changes, Summarize My MR Review, and Explain this Code. You can find more information about these features via the links from the blog. 0 - https://about.gitlab.com/blog/2023/05/03/gitlab-ai-assisted-...

Thank you! Will check it out. One thing I will say is that I notice lately that GitLab seems to throw in the word DevSecOps everywhere these days almost as if an exec has ordered everyone to use it a minimum of 20 times a day. It feels like the marketing people are pushing some kind of buzzword quota. Nonetheless, will keep an eye on these features before our renewal cycle in September.

DevSecOps, ugh.

There's this rule - it likely has a name, but I don't know what it is - the rule saying that two-syllable names are by far the easiest, most effortless and most likeable ones to deal with (and any popular name that isn't two-syllable will eventually get a diminutive that is).

DevOps is two-syllable, so it stuck. DevSecOps is three-syllable, so it sucks. That's on top of it looking like it was created by means of someone saying "oh oh and also security, and also security!".

Re: Gitlab and Google Cloud Partner to Expand AI-Assisted Capabilities

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Post by endisneigh »

jraph wrote: post #25

> GitLab is working with Google Cloud because of its strong commitment to privacy Right. I guess they'll also deal with Qualcomm for their strong commitment to openness, and Russia for its strong commitment to democracy.

You're implying that GCP somehow does not keep customers' data private. Do you have evidence for this?

Re: Gitlab and Google Cloud Partner to Expand AI-Assisted Capabilities

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Post by preisschild »

yrro wrote: post #23

> GitLab plans to improve its customers' DevSecOps workflow efficiency by 10x, by applying AI-assisted workflows How about GitLab fix the most elemental mistakes they have made with the k8s operator for GitLab runner instead of... whatever the hell this is?

Or finally completing their child pipeline feature that was introduced almost 3 years ago

https://gitlab.com/groups/gitlab-org/-/epics/8205

Re: Gitlab and Google Cloud Partner to Expand AI-Assisted Capabilities

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Post by illnewsthat »

sofixa wrote: post #51
visarga wrote: post #18

Maybe GCP, Azure and AWS could pull together the text to train a language model to tell us how to deal with their fucking stupid UIs and arcane terminology. I dread having to use their cloud portals. How do you find a VM by IP address in Azure? that kind of thing.

First, their UI and UX are very different. Azure is by far the worst (as in pretty much all categories) - even their docs suck, with random broken links (even the links to switch the language of the exemple code) and very weird naming schemes, let alone the actual cloud UI. GCP and AWS are quite decent (for AWS you need to know a bit about how they organise things or use the search, but still). > How do you find a VM…

Can you give some examples of things you don’t like about Azure UI/UX or Azure docs?
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