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Enhancements to the Kagi Search Experience

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Re: Enhancements to the Kagi Search Experience

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Oh wow, these are legitimately all good improvements. Some are things I'd use, some are, I'm sure, going to appreciated by others, but what's pointedly not anywhere on this list (except cheekily in a few screenshots) is any sort of AI-powered nonsense. I know they mentioned a while back that they were working on some tooling of that sort, but boy am I happy that (in this release at least), they focused on features th…

What's the problem with AI, and why is it nonsense?

Re: Enhancements to the Kagi Search Experience

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use Kagi exclusively. The results are just as bad as googles, but isn’t covered in spam. Given the sorry state of search quality in the SEO garbage world we live in, that’s high praise. I’m happy to spend the money every month.

Thanks, I felt similar last time I used it. Wasn’t magic like I remember Google being. I wonder what happened to Google? My theory is maybe their own systems have become too complex for them to understand and tune now. But they’ve invested so heavily into “AI” they don’t known where else to go in order to fix it ? I’ve here seen or experienced a search product quite like Google used to be. It truly felt like magic in…

What happened is that it got gamed, and lost the game. Spammers are better at getting ranked than Google is at detecting them, and the Web has died as a result.

Re: Enhancements to the Kagi Search Experience

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Time to give Kagi another go, Google is ruined for me, I just can’t use Microsoft products. Will try again.

I use Kagi exclusively. The results are just as bad as googles, but isn’t covered in spam. Given the sorry state of search quality in the SEO garbage world we live in, that’s high praise. I’m happy to spend the money every month.

Why not just use Startpage?

Re: Enhancements to the Kagi Search Experience

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https://kagi.com/pricing?plan=individual I knew Kagi is paid but I didn't know they had a limit on how many searches you can perform, which is also rather low. But what I really didn't like is how dishonest they are. The lowest tier costs $5 and includes 200 searches per month. That is 6.66 per day! But they say "Includes enough searches for 99% of internet users" because "The average person searches Google three or…

> They know very well that someone for pays for Kagi (or even knows about Kagi) doesn't perform three or four searches a day.

Fwiw, i pay for Kagi and i am totally inline with their estimates. Maybe a pinch more, 7 instead of 4 atm. But at $5/m i can't complain, and so far (it's new to me) i've found myself not falling back to Google.

I was on DDG for ~2 years and i constantly opened up Startpage (aka Google) and sometimes even Google. I've been very happy with Kagi, so far.

Not sure i'd pay $20/m, but $5/m is a very nice value to me. I hope things work well for them.

edit: Sidenote, but the first thing i noticed is just how damn fast Kagi is. Not really a selling point to me, but wow.

Re: Enhancements to the Kagi Search Experience

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They literally provide sources for those claims. I have no idea how you can say with a straight face that they're dishonest. They're very clear and transparent about how their plans are limited. It's also extremely easy to check what your usage is for the current month and get a monthly overview. If you happen to use more than the 200 searches for the standard plan, they charge 1.5 cents per search. If you blow past…

The GP didn't say they're lying about the number, the claim was that the number isn't representative of the amount of Google searches Kagi users are likely to perform.

Why is it not representative? I was surprised by this recent Kagi pricing change but after reviewing my search stats I realized that their estimation is pretty on point.

Re: Enhancements to the Kagi Search Experience

#26
I've been using Kagi as my default search engine for four months for both work and personal use, and it's been a great experience.

The only time I find myself re-doing a search in Google is when I want to look something up in Google Maps, but everything else, Kagi is on par with Google or better. I really like that Kagi lets me filter out blogspam results and sites that are just remixing content from StackOverflow.

Re: Enhancements to the Kagi Search Experience

#27

Can never get into Kagi. You pay for privacy but if it’s ever sold your privacy will be retroactively taken and will be even more valuable since it will be known by the buyer that you pay. Better off using a VPN and duck or Brave imho. In any case these improvements do look very good. Public record search is cool. Lenses improvements look interesting as that seems the be the most unique feature.

Your privacy can't be retroactively taken: Kagi does not store your search history. The only search history you have is local, your own web browser.

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Re: Enhancements to the Kagi Search Experience

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use Kagi exclusively. The results are just as bad as googles, but isn’t covered in spam. Given the sorry state of search quality in the SEO garbage world we live in, that’s high praise. I’m happy to spend the money every month.

Why not just use Startpage?

Personally I _want_ to pay for this service. I do not trust free search products anymore. Well... they can't really be free, someone somehow has to pay for the consumed resources.

Re: Enhancements to the Kagi Search Experience

#29
post #10

https://kagi.com/pricing?plan=individual I knew Kagi is paid but I didn't know they had a limit on how many searches you can perform, which is also rather low. But what I really didn't like is how dishonest they are. The lowest tier costs $5 and includes 200 searches per month. That is 6.66 per day! But they say "Includes enough searches for 99% of internet users" because "The average person searches Google three or…

It's completely honest. You don't have a sense of typical use. I'd argue search power users make fewer searches a day, too, but like you, and unlike Kagi, I can't back that up with sources.

Re: Enhancements to the Kagi Search Experience

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post #10

https://kagi.com/pricing?plan=individual I knew Kagi is paid but I didn't know they had a limit on how many searches you can perform, which is also rather low. But what I really didn't like is how dishonest they are. The lowest tier costs $5 and includes 200 searches per month. That is 6.66 per day! But they say "Includes enough searches for 99% of internet users" because "The average person searches Google three or…

~7 per day is on the low side for me. I will normally rerun the same search with different terms multiple times, especially if I'm looking for an answer to something highly technical, like easily 5-6 different searches for the same thing. And this happens multiple times per day.

There's something perverse with the incentives here: they make more money if you have to perform more searches.

It doesn't quite sit right in the same way github actions charges per minute: The slower their runners are, the more money they make.

And both of these scenarios there is no user agency to assist with that past a certain point.

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