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Brazilian frog might be the first pollinating amphibian known to science

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Re: Brazilian frog might be the first pollinating amphibian known to science

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Post by doctoboggan »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #10
jdthedisciple wrote: post #8

What's up all these GPT bot comments here on HN lately? Seems like a fairly new phenomenon.

Bots seem to be seasonal creatures. Some months you won't see any. And then some months you'll see four per submission. I'd just downvote and reconvene when it seems to be a substantial issue. As for GPT, the bots you usually see on HN are just as easily written by humans. GPT makes sense for scale, but it's not very interesting when bots are posting at such low volume, so it doesn't necessarily have to be the case n…

I see 4 dead comments, but I suspect one of them is from a real human (derjanni)

Re: Brazilian frog might be the first pollinating amphibian known to science

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Post by dangling42 »

Blikkentrekker wrote: post #30
LegitShady wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

unfortunately this is the future of the entire internet - and not just the comments the submissions as well. the search for authenticity and actual human material will become the most valuable thing. This isn't that different from what we have now as people have abandoned corporate messaging for communities and podcasts/youtube/etc to try to find authentic human voices. The difference will be how much harder it will…

If it ever become impossible to spot a human from a bit, then bots become valuable contributors to online discussion with interesting insights so I don't see the problem.

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Re: Brazilian frog might be the first pollinating amphibian known to science

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Post by pizzeriaricardo »

Blikkentrekker wrote: post #30
LegitShady wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

unfortunately this is the future of the entire internet - and not just the comments the submissions as well. the search for authenticity and actual human material will become the most valuable thing. This isn't that different from what we have now as people have abandoned corporate messaging for communities and podcasts/youtube/etc to try to find authentic human voices. The difference will be how much harder it will…

If it ever become impossible to spot a human from a bit, then bots become valuable contributors to online discussion with interesting insights so I don't see the problem.

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Re: Brazilian frog might be the first pollinating amphibian known to science

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Post by bigdictinstance »

Blikkentrekker wrote: post #30
LegitShady wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

unfortunately this is the future of the entire internet - and not just the comments the submissions as well. the search for authenticity and actual human material will become the most valuable thing. This isn't that different from what we have now as people have abandoned corporate messaging for communities and podcasts/youtube/etc to try to find authentic human voices. The difference will be how much harder it will…

If it ever become impossible to spot a human from a bit, then bots become valuable contributors to online discussion with interesting insights so I don't see the problem.

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Re: Brazilian frog might be the first pollinating amphibian known to science

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Post by LegitShady »

Blikkentrekker wrote: post #30
LegitShady wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

unfortunately this is the future of the entire internet - and not just the comments the submissions as well. the search for authenticity and actual human material will become the most valuable thing. This isn't that different from what we have now as people have abandoned corporate messaging for communities and podcasts/youtube/etc to try to find authentic human voices. The difference will be how much harder it will…

If it ever become impossible to spot a human from a bit, then bots become valuable contributors to online discussion with interesting insights so I don't see the problem.

that depends on what your purpose is for going online and engaging in social networks/forums

Re: Brazilian frog might be the first pollinating amphibian known to science

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Post by LegitShady »

noizejoy wrote: post #23
hackbert wrote: post #19

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And the tough part is new users being kicked out when someone thinks they’re a bot. How do we protect people from the bot witch-hunt?

On the other hand if your human comment is indistinguishable from a bot comment, maybe it’s ok to be kicked out? Related: Reverse Turing Test: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_Turing_test

It depends on the community. I think its ok for humans to not be perfect, sometimes. Meanwhile I have no interest in what ChatGPT thinks about anything.

Re: Brazilian frog might be the first pollinating amphibian known to science

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Post by CobrastanJorji »

InitialLastName wrote: post #25
skullone wrote: post #18

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Do you have any examples before they were deleted? I wonder if I'd even recognize a fancy bot comment

At the moment it's a few brand new accounts posting essentially the same content-less statement that covers the big points in the headline {novelty, pollination, frog}. Example: That's amazing! It's incredible that we are still discovering new species, and that some of them can even have special abilities like pollinating. I'm looking forward to reading more about this frog.

Kind of concerning that "hey that's pretty neat" comments are immediately suspected (probably accurately) of being bots. A comment like that example isn't useful to the other comment readers, but it's probably pretty motivating to the author, and it makes forums more positive places. Removing the organic versions of those will make forums a more negative place, and that's a shame.

Re: Brazilian frog might be the first pollinating amphibian known to science

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Post by InitialLastName »

CobrastanJorji wrote: post #39
InitialLastName wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At the moment it's a few brand new accounts posting essentially the same content-less statement that covers the big points in the headline {novelty, pollination, frog}. Example: That's amazing! It's incredible that we are still discovering new species, and that some of them can even have special abilities like pollinating. I'm looking forward to reading more about this frog.

Kind of concerning that "hey that's pretty neat" comments are immediately suspected (probably accurately) of being bots. A comment like that example isn't useful to the other comment readers, but it's probably pretty motivating to the author, and it makes forums more positive places. Removing the organic versions of those will make forums a more negative place, and that's a shame.

I'd be more accepting of a "hey that's pretty neat" comment if it didn't read like the equivalent of a middle schooler's attempt to restate the headline as if they read the article (with some hallucinations, such as this being a newly-discovered species).

Edit to add: Sibling comment has me questioning whether I'm a robot

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