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MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry

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Re: MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry

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While Apple is far from perfect, I have zero motivation to ever go back to Windows (or go work at a company that primarily uses MS tech) for reasons like this.

Between these UX-hostile behaviors, ads embedded in the OS, the awful MSN news integration... it just baffles me that how much MS is sinking despite some rehabilitative moves a few years back.

I'm not even mad, just (constantly) disappointed.

Re: MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry

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>They could literally destroy Microsoft if they started to hugely degrade the experience of Microsoft products on iOS and Android with dark patterns a la Microsoft. Sorry, but Google really isn't a saint regarding degraded experience. The shenanigans around UX for example using Google services in Firefox have a long, well documented tradition. They just aren't as overt and clumsy with it as MS.

I use a Firefox addon that spoofs the user agent for Google-owned sites so it delivers the Chrome version of things. Works without any issues and it's a much nicer product experience.

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Re: MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry

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> They did a wonderful job with C# and .NET Core. You mean the products Microsoft created when it became apparent they were losing the lawsuit about their embrace, extend extinguish tactics with J++ and their custom Java implementation. And also had to cough up billions of dollars in a settlement with Sun [1]. [1] https://www.infoworld.com/article/2667124/update--sun--micro...

I hate Microsoft as much as your average Gen X tech nerd, but C# is good. I don't care what inspired them to do it.

You mean you don't care about Java?

Re: MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry

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I can't uninstall Google apps in my Android phone YouTube, Gmail etc.

Have you rooted it?

Rooting a phone will lock you out of most financial and secure NFC applications.

It can be a no brainer depending on your life style (I mean, some people are trying to get back to dumb phones, so why not), I personally see it as big nope.

Re: MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry

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I hate Microsoft as much as your average Gen X tech nerd, but C# is good. I don't care what inspired them to do it.

You mean you don't care about Java?

I also hate Oracle. Now what?

Re: MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry

#487

Is that EU "Microsoft must give users a choice between web browsers" court decision completely expired now, or does that perhaps only relate to the OS itself and not apps?

That consent decree has expired (in 2011?! Im getting old).

Re: MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry

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You sound like a person who never even tried. Open Settings > Safari > Default Browser App, and select the app you want. It's really that easy.

Is this true for Maps and most critically Voice Assistants? How do I get Siri to navigate using Google Maps? How do I replace Siri with a different voice assistant? You can't for either of those questions. Nevermind that changing the browser doesn't actually change jack because Apple doesn't allow competition in the browser engine space. All in all, it is just hard for me to take seriously an opinion saying that Appl…

You can actually ask Siri to navigate with Google Maps by appending "using Google Maps" to a request. So for example, "navigate home using Google Maps".

However, clicking an address in a message and being told to install Apple Maps is super aggravating and I'm not sure if there's a way around that...

Re: MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry

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I disagree with your premise. I have an iPhone (forced upon me by work) and it's ridiculous how many links still try to open in safari or Apple maps. I've tried to configure it for years and I've literally uninstalled Apple maps, but half the time iPhone keeps wanting me to reinstall it when I click a link or address. And a lot of url links open in safari instead of chrome or Firefox. Same with many other things - I…

You sound like a person who never even tried. Open Settings > Safari > Default Browser App, and select the app you want. It's really that easy.

I've done a fair bit of trying over the years; based on your comment I retried today I still cannot find it under Settings -> Safari -> Default Browser App.

To be fair though, I did find it on my wife's iPhone, though under Chrome (she does not have it under Safari (or General either, where I would've expected it)). Still don't have it anywhere on my iPhone. I'll try to see if that's because she's ahead of me on OS updates or some other reason.

Thx!

Re: MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry

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Simply put, people don't love Edge as much as they love Chrome. The browser bundled with Windows 11 is naturally Edge, but users who use Chrome install Chrome of their own volition, so forcing them to open links in Edge is extremely annoying.

As annoying as for Edge-loving people who then buy a mobile phone and are then forced to "open their links" in Safari or Chrome. But to be honest, it's mostly the other way around: people live on phones, and when they have to interact with desktops, they pick the browser that integrates with their phones in the most seamless way. Which means, inevitably, the browser picked by their mobile-OS vendor, since there is li…

You can set Edge as the default browser and links will open in Edge.

You can also buy an Android phone with Edge pre-installed by default like a Microsoft Surface Duo.

Microsoft has been trying to co-opt Android since Windows Phone failed. And they are able to do so because Android is relatively open (certainly more open than any mainstream consumer operating system has ever been). For instance, Microsoft added support for running Android Apps on Windows 11 and they added the Amazon App store to Windows rather than the Google Play store. Done completely without any involvement from Google. That is unprecedented openness for a mainstream OS. That's not to say that Android is perfect in regards to openness but the iOS/Android walled garden false equivalence that gets pushed around here is baseless.

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