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Remember when the right seceded from the United States, killed 360000 citizens, and still wave that flag without any consequences whatsoever?
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FBI Bureau Supervisor Arrested in Connection with Jan 6th Capitol Riot
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#22> “Yeah, f--- them! Yeah, kill ’em! Kill ’em! Kill ’em! Kill ’em!” So he was so stupid that he did the agent provocateur thing without being one?
The NYT, WashPo and other mainstream outlets claim that the alleged presence of agent provocateurs is either a, "right-wing conspiracy theory" or a, "alt-right conspiracy theory". Take your pick of scare words.
Would they lie?
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The foot soldiers are getting rammed by the law. Yet, the generals are still walking free. The insurrectionist leader is running for President again and getting interviewed by CNN. Democracy is still under threat.
I don't necessarily disagree with you but on the other hand, we gotta start somewhere, and why not with the low hanging fruit?
Yes, but then again… it’s 2023, and this happened in 2021 in broad daylight, in front of us all. We had an impeachment which proved the point, a bipartisan investigation that proved the point — Donald Trump was responsible for Jan 6. Now it’s in the hands of a special counsel who I hope will do his duty, but so many have withered before.
I guess my point is, going after the low hanging fruit is all the criminal justice system is able to do. I look forward to the day my mind is changed.
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#25So the US has decided that it is a riot now not a coup attempt? Can't handle the truth? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1981_Spanish_coup_d%27%C3%A9... Nobody in Spain denies this. Wonder why America is different.
Peacefully occupying a building and leaving on your own accord is not a coup. If you think this is comparable to armed groups lead by the military occupying parliament and threatening to murder the people inside if demands are not met, I have no idea what to say.
Peaceful? We all saw what happened in real time. What I saw was not peaceful. If it was peaceful, why did they bring (and use) so many weapons? Why did Rudy Giuliani call for “trial by combat” at the Ellipse Rally? Why did so many people get injured? Why was so much damage done? Why did people die?
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Peacefully occupying a building and leaving on your own accord is not a coup. If you think this is comparable to armed groups lead by the military occupying parliament and threatening to murder the people inside if demands are not met, I have no idea what to say.
Peaceful? We all saw what happened in real time. What I saw was not peaceful. If it was peaceful, why did they bring (and use) so many weapons? Why did Rudy Giuliani call for “trial by combat” at the Ellipse Rally? Why did so many people get injured? Why was so much damage done? Why did people die?
it's mostly peaceful but not fiery
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#27So the US has decided that it is a riot now not a coup attempt? Can't handle the truth? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1981_Spanish_coup_d%27%C3%A9... Nobody in Spain denies this. Wonder why America is different.
From your linked article, first paragraph: >Lieutenant-Colonel Antonio Tejero led 200 armed Civil Guard officers into the Congress of Deputies during the vote to elect a President of the Government. The officers held the parliamentarians and ministers hostage for 18 hours , during which time King Juan Carlos I denounced the coup in a televised address, calling for rule of law and the democratic government to continue…
It was not a spontaneous outburst everything was preplanned and orchestrated by Trump and co but unfortunately we will have to leave it to future historians not the FBI.
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't necessarily disagree with you but on the other hand, we gotta start somewhere, and why not with the low hanging fruit?
Yes, but then again… it’s 2023, and this happened in 2021 in broad daylight, in front of us all. We had an impeachment which proved the point, a bipartisan investigation that proved the point — Donald Trump was responsible for Jan 6. Now it’s in the hands of a special counsel who I hope will do his duty, but so many have withered before. I guess my point is, going after the low hanging fruit is all the criminal justi…
Ultimately it'll happen if there's enough evidence to prosecute. I think one thing we're learning as a democracy is that the law has to be applied fairly to everyone. Just think about how damning the invasion of Iraq has been. It would be a totally different narrative if Bush and co. were properly investigated for their role in potentially lying about the invasion. The issue is that these lessons move at the speed of democracy, which is quite slow, and it's fundamentally a political process at that. Therefore, it's up to voters and that takes time and access to information. On the other hand, I'm not aware of a better way to do things.
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#29So the US has decided that it is a riot now not a coup attempt? Can't handle the truth? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1981_Spanish_coup_d%27%C3%A9... Nobody in Spain denies this. Wonder why America is different.
Peacefully occupying a building and leaving on your own accord is not a coup. If you think this is comparable to armed groups lead by the military occupying parliament and threatening to murder the people inside if demands are not met, I have no idea what to say.
I mean, they were there to stop the transition of power from one president to another... that's a coup, even if it failed.
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American democracy remains strong. Turns out that if you try to subvert it, the law will ram you like a trailer.
America's democracy was subverted loooong ago, its called Wall Street...they figured it out - when you write the laws, you don't need to worry about breaking the law but keep thinking you are standing guard arresting some rednecks keep your credit score up! compliance is important the system is so thoroughly subverted that yes, voting is a waste of time...its amusing to watch the lemmings put the little "I Voted!!" s…
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