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IBM to pause hiring in plan to replace 7,800 jobs with AI

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Re: IBM to pause hiring in plan to replace 7,800 jobs with AI

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They have seemingly 1000 products so it's definitely not fair to apply experiences with one of those, to all of the others. That said, I've hated the handful of IBM software products I've needed to use. Another anecdote: I've never met a fellow developer that spoke highly of IBM. That includes the folks who used to work there. I think it's remarkable how rare it is to meet someone that speaks highly of the company. C…

My college roommate has worked for IBM his entire career, over 30 years. He loves it there, obviously, and never seriously considered leaving.

Let me guess, he enjoys wearing a tie to work

Re: IBM to pause hiring in plan to replace 7,800 jobs with AI

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> If they came out and said "We are pausing hiring..." the markets would rightly be like "Man they are screwed..." This hasn't been the case with the ongoing tech layoffs though? Investors for the most part congratulate these companies for diligently cutting costs in preparation of a recession.

That is the case for companies that overhired during the bull market. IBM, on the other hand, has been losing employee counts steadily for over a decade. If a company that people are expecting to be losing relevance does a layoff, it’s still not a good sign.

In my neck of the woods they're still known as a massive overhirer.

I have a few contacts with them and mostly they just rested and (not) vested.

Re: IBM to pause hiring in plan to replace 7,800 jobs with AI

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IBM felt to me like the last holdout of the shiny shoed salesmen when I briefly worked for them. Before the internet and big tech companies with leaders who were theoretically technical there were the companies dominated by salesmen because selling was the critical part. I imagine that getting a board to spend a lot of money on some project is hard and you need the support of the kind of people that can influence boa…

How do you think selling is being handled nowadays that the nerd percentage has increased within the companies?

The salesmen have adapted to a new style with smart casual clothes. They have a new vocabulary and perhaps ride mountain bikes instead of playing golf.

They still mock technical knowledge by wading around in a new sea of acronyms which they don't truly understand or care about. Think of the CEO of a company that makes a build system - every 10th word at one point in time might have been "CD" which means Continuous Delivery which is something his own company never did. But it's the most important thing in the world for that year or two and lots of sententious things are said about it without any connection to the possibility of "walking the walk" to use one of their favorite and least honest terms.

As a technical person one listens to them and wonders what planet they came from and how they could possibly have any connection with the reality of the business they're supposed to be running. But... they're salesmen and have sold themselves as the first product. They know what impresses non-technical people and it isn't the plain honest truth.

I think it boils down to some facts: we have it better than it has been for a long time but there are real situations where one must be a master of bullshit and have the ability to appear supremely confident and all-knowing whilst actually knowing very little. This confidence founded on nothing transmits itself to other people. If you are lucky and appear to be a winner or if you can hide your mistakes and advertise your success then people will take your lead or offer you opportunities.

Re: IBM to pause hiring in plan to replace 7,800 jobs with AI

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IBM as a company barely makes sense at all at this point. They are a very large and a former tech company that mostly coasts along on doing expensive consulting projects around me-too clones of things that other people have invented just so they can still pretend to be a tech company. So you can do things with AI, cloud, and databases with them. But they aren't really leaders in any of that for a long time. And havin…

Worked at IBM back in 2010. It was the second most valuable company in the world at that time. I left and now the rank has slipped to 86. Sorry.

Re: IBM to pause hiring in plan to replace 7,800 jobs with AI

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Poor middle management, those should be the majority of the people to let go.

That's literally every tech company. Middle managers, product owners, project managers, etc can all go.

On what assumption (or fact, which I doubt) do you base that?

Re: IBM to pause hiring in plan to replace 7,800 jobs with AI

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This is just using the AI hype as cover to not get slammed by the markets. If they came out and said "We are pausing hiring..." the markets would rightly be like "Man they are screwed..." Expect to see more of this from zombie companies in the future, as long as they spend $20/mo on a ChatGPT subscription somewhere they are probably not violating SEC disclosures either.

My first guess was, if they'd decided on a hiring freeze a year ago instead of now, they would have said it was because of NFTs.

Re: IBM to pause hiring in plan to replace 7,800 jobs with AI

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You have to understand their competitive moat, DoD and especially Pentagon contracts. Most companies don't have the capitalization, runway or people who are so badly broken as to go through the bidding process for something like that.

Yep was at a small startup and the owner insisted we go with IBM, over the protest of everyone. Months of work and we got infrastructure moved over. Only to find out the stack we were sold on was being sunset. Owner insisted we move to the new stack. Month later we were on new stack. This happened twice more.

"Small startup" and "IBM stack" are not things you hear of in combination that often and I guess this is one reason why.
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