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NYPD urges citizens to buy AirTags to fight surge in car thefts

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Re: NYPD urges citizens to buy AirTags to fight surge in car thefts

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21st century "let them eat cake"

If you can afford to park a car in NYC, you can afford Air Tags.

You can park for free after 6 or 7PM weekdays and in some limited places (Chelsea), all day long.

Re: NYPD urges citizens to buy AirTags to fight surge in car thefts

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LoJack used to be the go-to company for this. No more. Classic LoJack had good privacy. It's a box hidden somewhere in the car, with a connection to vehicle power. It has a transmitter, but normally doesn't transmit. If your car is stolen, you report this to the police, which report it to LoJack. That broadcasts an ID over a subcarrier of some local FM broadcast station. The receiver in the Lojack unit listens for th…

The first one is... incredibly convoluted. Like reaching your right arm over your head to touch your left esr (try it!). The second one sounds like it sucks. With the pay-once AirTags you can just find the car thief yourself and shoot them. https://nypost.com/2023/04/02/texas-man-used-apple-airtag-to...

That's probably the only solution because from the stories I've seen, when someone has something stolen that's airtagged and they tell police, the police basically just tell them to fuck off

Re: NYPD urges citizens to buy AirTags to fight surge in car thefts

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> But as someone who spent years on iPhone, then switched fully to Android for 5 devices across 4 years Perhaps you don't know how to pick phones? My last Android device lasted 4 years (in fact it is still going strong after I installed DivestOS, became my backup phone), and my new device will probably last a long time too. Each for a fraction of the price charged by Apple.

> Perhaps you don't know how to pick phones? My last Android device lasted 4 years (in fact it is still going strong after I installed DivestOS, became my backup phone), and my new device will probably last a long time too. They might just replace their phone a lot. Some people do that. Actually, despite the common wisdom that Apple users are always getting the latest thing and just can't wait to give Apple more mone…

> They might just replace their phone a lot. Some people do that.

I actually don't like to replace my phone a lot. The issue was, with each Android phone, despite great recommendations from others and lots of research I was left wanting. And after being disappointed by each Android phone, another Android expert would tell me that some other newly released hardware would blow me away. I was tricked by this again and again and again. Until eventually releasing I would just be so much happier on iPhone. I was.

Re: NYPD urges citizens to buy AirTags to fight surge in car thefts

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Video of "Why would anyone have one?" Around 15:50: https://youtu.be/Vuw72THyXsQ?t=942 They were laughing at it. So hilarious, I'm in stitches over the ignorance.

Why would I choose an Android phone? Apple does not spy on me, and does not sell my information to advertisers. An iPhone SE is $429, or can be financed at the same price , with zero interest, at $17.87 for 24 months. Why would I want to join Google’s advertiser-driven ecosystem, and voluntarily make myself into Google’s product?

> $17.87 for 24 months.

Yeah I'm too cheap to pay that much.

Re: NYPD urges citizens to buy AirTags to fight surge in car thefts

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I'm glad someone brought this up. I'm the CEO of Tile and we launched an anti-theft feature for this reason. We allow you to turn off anti-stalking features if you agree to strict penalties for misuse and verify yourself with a real ID. https://chrishulls.medium.com/tile-is-taking-a-different-app...

How do you verify the government ID used belongs to the person disabling the anti-stalker feature? There's a huge market for fake state IDs and stolen/leaked photos of various gov't IDs

Seems like a pretty unrealistic bar to set. You can use government ID to empty a bank account and air and tile stocking seems way lower Stakes.

Re: NYPD urges citizens to buy AirTags to fight surge in car thefts

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By the standards of either the NYC budget, or Apple's finances, $12,500 is a rounding error.

They can send all their rounding errors to me then, I'll happily take them.

Okay. Note that half of them will be negative. Have fun.

Re: NYPD urges citizens to buy AirTags to fight surge in car thefts

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I wanted to try to understand more context behind the "'Why would anyone have one [an Android phone]?' Mayor Adams responded." quote. Here is the relevant video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vuw72THyXsQ&t=949s

So, I get that he's making a joke, but given that everyone just laughs and there is no follow up, it's clear to me it's one of those "The reason this joke is funny is because I actually think it's true" jokes.

I've been an Android user for about a decade now, but I think I'm finally going to have to throw in the towel. Between iMessage (especially iMessage) and things like this, in the US having an Android essentially marks you as a second class citizen. And to be clear, I'm not saying this from an "Androids are uncool" or some silly "green bubbles" perspective, I'm saying from the perspective that owning an Android actually makes it more difficult to interact with friends and, in this case, with government services.

No, I'm not happy about it, and I f'ing hate how Apple has used these walled garden techniques to force people onto their platform. But from a simple utilitarian perspective, owning an Android puts you at a distinct disadvantage in the US.

Re: NYPD urges citizens to buy AirTags to fight surge in car thefts

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> But as someone who spent years on iPhone, then switched fully to Android for 5 devices across 4 years Perhaps you don't know how to pick phones? My last Android device lasted 4 years (in fact it is still going strong after I installed DivestOS, became my backup phone), and my new device will probably last a long time too. Each for a fraction of the price charged by Apple.

Might be luck of the draw, but my experience with Android has been similar to OP. Each of my (at the time top of the line) Samsung phones stopped working due to various reasons after a time period ranging from just under an year, to a couple of years. In comparison, my secondhand iPhone 3G worked for several years—until I left it in a plane by mistake. My iPhone 7plus I used for ~7 years; in fact I still use it, alon…

You used Samsung products, that was your problem. Every Samsung I've had or used has been absolute trash

Re: NYPD urges citizens to buy AirTags to fight surge in car thefts

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> this level of ignorance and short-sightedness It was a joke. Maybe an off-color, inappropriate, unfunny, bad taste, etc. But it was a joke, not ignorance. Speaking of too much time on HN (:

This is why politicians try not to say anything at all whenever they talk.

Because they otherwise make bad jokes in poor taste?
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