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Re: PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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Post by tristor »

jimbokun wrote: post #833
tristor wrote: post #815

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In your definition, theocracy is only a theocratic dictatorship, however there are other forms of theocracy, and I am pointing out one such case. I do not believe either Israel or Utah are literally theocratic, only because they have constitutions that allow the free practice of religion, but in /practice/ both are.

You are making up a new definition for a word, different from how it's commonly used.

I'm pointing out that the world operates pragmatically and things in practice matter, not only rigid dictionary definitions of terms. There is a difference between something meeting a literal definition and meeting that definition in practice. Does litigating the semantics matter for those who are affected by government policies created for religious reasons? No? Okay, well, then my point stands.

Re: PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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Post by ssnistfajen »

tristor wrote: post #839
ssnistfajen wrote: post #830

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> [X] Doubt My multiple full passports say otherwise. > Shame on all those money you wasted travelling then because you clearly didn't make good use of it. I'm happy with my experiences. I'm not sure what parts of the world you went to, but most of the world is /very/ homogeneous. There are parts of the world that are more diverse than the US, on some variable, for instance pretty much anywhere in Africa is more ethn…

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Re: PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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Post by George83728 »

ssnistfajen wrote: post #830
tristor wrote: post #811

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> Consider travelling outside North America for once before making such egregious comparisons again. I've extensively traveled the world, to more than 70 countries, and have spent years of my life living abroad. The United States is far more diverse and heterogeneous than most other countries in the world, contrary to your statements. Some subsets of the US are regionally /very/ homogeneous, however, which is part of…

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You should try disagreeing without personal attacks.

Re: PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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Post by ytreyrty »

ctvo wrote: post #287
miroljub wrote: post #272

Pornhub forced to block Utah, but not Iran. One state is a democracy, the other is an undemocratic clerical state. Now, close your eyes and try to guess which is which.

> One state is a democracy, the other is an undemocratic clerical state. > Now, close your eyes and try to guess which is which. Utah is the democracy? Doesn't seem too tough. Their elected officials passed a law, we assume with the will of the people. You disagreeing with the law doesn't change their status as a democracy. > Pornhub forced to block Utah, but not Iran. One has enforcement mechanisms that can actually…

it's interesting how the biggest defenders of "democracy" always have a problem when democracy is used to implement something they dont like.

Re: PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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Post by dragonwriter »

ytreyrty wrote: post #844
ctvo wrote: post #287

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> One state is a democracy, the other is an undemocratic clerical state. > Now, close your eyes and try to guess which is which. Utah is the democracy? Doesn't seem too tough. Their elected officials passed a law, we assume with the will of the people. You disagreeing with the law doesn't change their status as a democracy. > Pornhub forced to block Utah, but not Iran. One has enforcement mechanisms that can actually…

it's interesting how the biggest defenders of "democracy" always have a problem when democracy is used to implement something they dont like.

Yes, its always surprising that the set of people thar believe that the populace at large should have control of policy overlaps with the set that have strong opinions about the content of policy.

I mean, except that that’s really not even a little bit surprising.

(Neither, really, is the fact—which seems more relevant here—that people raised in the context where liberal democracy is idealized often have trouble separating out the “liberal” and “democratic” elements of that system, and frequently confuse the construct as “democracy” and view democratic illiberalism as “undemocratic”.)

Re: PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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Post by pnt12 »

int_19h wrote: post #829
Aerbil313 wrote: post #802

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Exactly, see https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/

The guy behind this website is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Wilson_(author)

Thanks for the link. It's surprising how much credit is given to a charlatan, even in hacker news.

Re: PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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Post by jimbokun »

solarmist wrote: post #688
PathOfEclipse wrote: post #679

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> You can suck on it when you are a baby, but god forbid you ever take a look at it again before you are married. It turns out, a mother's nipple has a far different effect on an infant than a young adult female nipple does on a teenage boy. If this is difficult for you to grasp, then you should consider stepping away from this conversation, as there is clearly nuance here that the average person can easily understan…

If your moral code dictates what other people can or cannot do with their own lives in their homes then I contend that your moral code may be corrupt or severely misguided.

Like viewing child porn?

Re: PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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Post by pnt12 »

AlecSchueler wrote: post #336
hvis wrote: post #314

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Sugar is addictive. And it might have more effect on your lifespan than the consumption of pornography. Quality of life, too.

Yes it is, and that's why we teach our children about nutritional health and, in some places, regulate things like school dinners and products aimed at children. What point are you making in relation to the topic at hand?

And does Utah have a strong sex education curriculum, to teach children about it?

I assume no - it's just a ban on sinful behavior.

Re: PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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Post by [deleted] »

Marsymars wrote: post #812
ajross wrote: post #322

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> To me, this seems akin to dropping ID requirements at liquor stores and bars, and instead enacting a law to jail the parents of minors who drink liquor. Purchasing liquor isn't a first amendment right. The standards are indeed different.

As a non-American, whether something is legislated in their/your constitution, or at some other level, is for the most part, an implementation detail of the law that isn't too relevant to my concerns about the actual laws enforced.

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