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Is infinity an odd or even number? (2011)

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Re: Is infinity an odd or even number? (2011)

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I had it explained at a very early age as "three lots of three", and to imagine it like three boxes of three ice-creams. Treating the multiplication symbol as one would to indicate quantity in a list, thus calculating how many ice-creams there are.

Found the Brit! As an American I’d never heard the “lots of __” phrasing until I watched Numberblocks (a British show) with my kid…

Pharmaceuticals and other manufactured goods are sometimes referred to in 'lots' meaning a batch.

Re: Is infinity an odd or even number? (2011)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had it explained at a very early age as "three lots of three", and to imagine it like three boxes of three ice-creams. Treating the multiplication symbol as one would to indicate quantity in a list, thus calculating how many ice-creams there are.

Found the Brit! As an American I’d never heard the “lots of __” phrasing until I watched Numberblocks (a British show) with my kid…

> Numberblocks

We don't live in the UK but our kids watch Numberblocks.

Our youngest started rattling off all kinds of number stuff which I know for sure she hasn't yet encountered in school.

Me: Wow ... how do you know that?

Her: Numberblocks!

Me: Umm ... OK!

Re: Is infinity an odd or even number? (2011)

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In my experience with children, one of the easiest-to-grasp concepts of infinity is provided by the transfinite ordinals, since it can be viewed as a continuation of the usual counting manner of children, but proceeding into the transfinite: 1,2,3,⋯,ω,ω+1,ω+2,⋯,ω+ω=ω⋅2,ω⋅2+1,⋯,ω⋅3,⋯,ω2,ω2+1,⋯,ω2+ω,⋯⋯ Presumably this person has no experience with 6 year olds? This explanation is horrendous haha

No it isn't. If you ask a child what comes after infinity, "Infinity + 1" is pretty much the default answer. Any kid who knows multiplication knows "Infinity + Infinity" is the same as "Infinity Times Two". The answer of "Infinity TIMES Infinity" is also popular for kids to say when they know a number bigger than their friend (who just proclaimed infinity is the largest number).

imagine my surprise when I got to college and learned that infinity + 1 was actually a number! I felt so cheated from my childhood.

Re: Is infinity an odd or even number? (2011)

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I thought that most of us learn at an early age, as a result of this kind of exchange, that "infinity" is not "the biggest number" or even a number at all, as far as the ordinary notion of "number" goes.

No math instruction I had ever discussed infinity with any rigor until calculus -- and even then, it was only infinity as a limit. Infinity as a concept was brushed off in the same way that the square root of negative one was brushed off until we were actually taught about it.

It came up a bit in some physics classes, when you can mathematically make something go to positive or negative infinity being able to remove it from the simplified calculation of something is very handy.

Re: Is infinity an odd or even number? (2011)

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In my experience with children, one of the easiest-to-grasp concepts of infinity is provided by the transfinite ordinals, since it can be viewed as a continuation of the usual counting manner of children, but proceeding into the transfinite: 1,2,3,⋯,ω,ω+1,ω+2,⋯,ω+ω=ω⋅2,ω⋅2+1,⋯,ω⋅3,⋯,ω2,ω2+1,⋯,ω2+ω,⋯⋯ Presumably this person has no experience with 6 year olds? This explanation is horrendous haha

> Presumably this person has no experience with 6 year olds? In case anyone is curious, this person has experience teaching children mathematics. For example, on his blog, we have http://jdh.hamkins.org/math-for-six-year-olds/ http://jdh.hamkins.org/math-for-seven-year-olds-graph-colori... http://jdh.hamkins.org/math-for-eight-year-olds/ http://jdh.hamkins.org/math-for-nine-year-olds-fold-punch-cu... The most recent…

> this person has experience teaching children mathematics

Just as a FYI, there are plenty of countries in Europe where many 6 year-olds are still in kindergarten not at school, as a result they most likely have not have properly started learning numbers or reading and writing.

https://www.statista.com/chart/13378/when-do-children-start-...

Re: Is infinity an odd or even number? (2011)

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I read the title and I sarcastically thought "ask JavaScript!" Your comment didn't disappoint. Importing the is-even package is the cherry on top.

The amazing thing is that the is-even package depends on the is-odd package. I would have thought the reverse, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It’s an odd choice for sure.

Re: Is infinity an odd or even number? (2011)

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In my experience with children, one of the easiest-to-grasp concepts of infinity is provided by the transfinite ordinals, since it can be viewed as a continuation of the usual counting manner of children, but proceeding into the transfinite: 1,2,3,⋯,ω,ω+1,ω+2,⋯,ω+ω=ω⋅2,ω⋅2+1,⋯,ω⋅3,⋯,ω2,ω2+1,⋯,ω2+ω,⋯⋯ Presumably this person has no experience with 6 year olds? This explanation is horrendous haha

It's math so you can start your explanation with "Assume your 6 year old has a PhD".

Re: Is infinity an odd or even number? (2011)

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The way I would explain it to a 6 year old would be like this: Infinity isn't a number really, it's a concept, like the word many or the word few. If someone says they have many of something, you don't think is that odd or even you just know they have a lot of it. Infinity is kind of like that, it explains the idea of things going on forever, not an exact quantity of things like the number 10 or 11.

If I say someone had many of something, then I know for certain that they must have either an even amount or an odd amount. Same goes for few.
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