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NYPD urges citizens to buy AirTags to fight surge in car thefts

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Re: NYPD urges citizens to buy AirTags to fight surge in car thefts

#41

How is car theft in 2023 still a problem? What happens to a stolen car? It doesn't seem feasible or realistic to try to sell it for parts (where are you going to store all these cars before/after parting them out), and there's no way you can just sell the car and expect it not to get flagged. WTF is going on?

Many stolen cars are transported out of the country

Re: NYPD urges citizens to buy AirTags to fight surge in car thefts

#42

How is car theft in 2023 still a problem? What happens to a stolen car? It doesn't seem feasible or realistic to try to sell it for parts (where are you going to store all these cars before/after parting them out), and there's no way you can just sell the car and expect it not to get flagged. WTF is going on?

They either get reworked in a chop shop, stripped for parts and then the remainder used for scrap, or they get shipped abroad for resale

Re: NYPD urges citizens to buy AirTags to fight surge in car thefts

#43

From TFA Mayor Adams was asked during the press conference if AirTags work with Android (they don't). "Why would anyone have one [an Android phone]?" Mayor Adams responded. Oh and given that this in New York we're talking about here, the vigilante mob are gonna go wild for this, especially after Citizen worked out so well .... But by last month, Frame was enthusiastically backing the idea of manhunts, according to sc…

> Why would anyone have one [an Android phone]?" Mayor Adams responded This is a New Yorker’s response to a stupid question. AirTags have a recognised brand. Messaging “buy AirTags” comes through cleanly in a way an inclusive statement would not. Given nobody is burning city funds for this, it’s literally a PSA, a reporter asking the mayor technical questions the answer to which they know is fine to be answered dismi…

Did you miss the part where the city is giving away 500 air tags? It's right at the start of the article. You did read the article, didn't you?

Re: NYPD urges citizens to buy AirTags to fight surge in car thefts

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who here can already see clearly the NYPD officer's completely blank stare when you show them exactly where the car thief took your car. "did you see them do it? otherwise it's not our problem"

> who here can already see clearly the NYPD officer's completely blank stare when you show them exactly where the car thief took your car. "did you see them do it? otherwise it's not our problem"

With NYPD, it's even worse: "if we didn't see it, we can't do anything about it". This is, of course, entirely false, but good luck trying to argue with a cop and getting them to do their job.

Heck, NYPD refuses to even take police reports on stolen property (which is a huge hassle because insurance usually requires a police report as a prerequisite to filing claims). You literally have to argue with them just to get them to file the report - not even do anything about the issue, mind you, just to get them to fill out the form.

Re: NYPD urges citizens to buy AirTags to fight surge in car thefts

#45

This article throws up many flags for me, not necessarily red, but of a worrying color. It first celebrates surveillance devices as a net positive and hand-waves away its problems. But most importantly, it is awfully shortsighted to allow a single company to entrench itself further into societal transactions. However, hearing it is inconvenient, so I am often dismissed for saying so. > They're made by Apple, which me…

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Re: NYPD urges citizens to buy AirTags to fight surge in car thefts

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> Defund the police. Not for any socialist reasons, or because they're racist or whatever people are angry about - but because they are so incompetent at their job

Who on Earth thinks the answer to attracting competent people to a middle-class job is lowering pay?

Re: NYPD urges citizens to buy AirTags to fight surge in car thefts

#47

This article throws up many flags for me, not necessarily red, but of a worrying color. It first celebrates surveillance devices as a net positive and hand-waves away its problems. But most importantly, it is awfully shortsighted to allow a single company to entrench itself further into societal transactions. However, hearing it is inconvenient, so I am often dismissed for saying so. > They're made by Apple, which me…

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Perhaps the police could Do Their Jobs without inviting more technocrats and outside surveillance into the mix.

Re: NYPD urges citizens to buy AirTags to fight surge in car thefts

#48
This is a terrible suggestion because Apple has effectively removed the anti-theft features of Airtags in favor of protection against stalking.

The thief will be notified of the tag in less than an hour usually. I see the alert anytime I mind my friends dog. Typically within 45-60 minutes of my friend leaving, I get an alert which includes a map of where I was tracked and my friends email address.

The original Airtag use case included theft but you'll notice any mention of that has now been removed from the marketing material. It's really just for people who lose things.

Re: NYPD urges citizens to buy AirTags to fight surge in car thefts

#49

I use Airtags for this purpose with my car and my bicycle, but they're not designed for this purpose. You can pull the speaker coil out of them fairly easily, but they will still notify the thief that they're being tracked if they have an iPhone on them. Not ideal, but it beats having a huge epidemic of stalking.

They will also notify an Android phone if they have installed the app which Apple created for this purpose. I have to imagine thieves would know about this.

Re: NYPD urges citizens to buy AirTags to fight surge in car thefts

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who here can already see clearly the NYPD officer's completely blank stare when you show them exactly where the car thief took your car. "did you see them do it? otherwise it's not our problem"

> who here can already see clearly the NYPD officer's completely blank stare when you show them exactly where the car thief took your car. "did you see them do it? otherwise it's not our problem" With NYPD, it's even worse: "if we didn't see it, we can't do anything about it". This is, of course, entirely false, but good luck trying to argue with a cop and getting them to do their job. Heck, NYPD refuses to even take…

The NYPD can bend crime stats by controlling the number of reports that get made. Want to make it seem like crime is going down in a neighborhood (so they can take credit for it)? Stop filling out so many reports. Want to convince people that there is a crime wave before an election to stymie any "defund" efforts? Fill out more reports. Neither requires doing any actual investigations.
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