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PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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Where are you based? I can purchase alcohol from Amazon UK with no obvious age checks. Deliveroo require that riders verify your age but in reality they just ask you to type it in. And the major grocery stores deliver alcohol without any obvious checking too. I imagine teenage drinking is much easier these days thanks to the above :)

About a month ago I had my groceries delivered from Wholefoods and the deliver driver carded me for some non-alcoholic beer I had purchased. I tried explaining to him that he didn't have to do that, but he wouldn't unload my groceries until I let him scan my ID.

Wait they actually scan your ID? Or did you mean visually 'scan' it

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>What's wrong with these people? someone told me once "Think of the US less like a secular Western European country and more like a very rich Iran" and that really does help to make sense of a lot of these decisions

My friend likes to refer to the US as a "third world country with a Gucci belt" and sadly I don't think this too far off.

Sounds like you and your friend both spend a little too much time on the internet.

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I suspect any academic study proposing to show pornography to minors is going to get shut down pretty quickly. In my own anecdotal experience I’d say it definitely can be dangerous and depends on a variety of factors, a key one IMO being what kind of pornography we’re even talking about. In my youth we discovered a friends dad nudie mag stash. Lots of glamour photography of topless women, some full nudity too but alw…

If the intention is to expose young people to porn and then measure longitudinally how they fare in life, ethical issues aside, I suspect that wouldn't work because your control group is very likely to become contaminated. And good luck getting the experiment underwritten. Rather I think you'd take a large sample of adults at a given age range, interview them as to the earliest age they recall consuming pornography,…

If you go the interview approach you'll run into many potential confounds. If the average age of first exposure is 13, and someone says they waited until 17, it's possible that a third variable delayed them from seeking porn and also will have an impact on other life incomes.

This is why random assignment is the gold standard. With a large enough sample size random assignment will account for all confounds. Here, we can only measure likely confounds and attempt to 'account for' them with statistics. All of these introduces more noise and generally reduces the validity of the study.

In general, I dismiss all scientific studies with these looking back questionnaires as little more than well documented hunches.

Re: PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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>What's wrong with these people? someone told me once "Think of the US less like a secular Western European country and more like a very rich Iran" and that really does help to make sense of a lot of these decisions

When's the last time the US publicly executed a homosexual person or adulterer, with or without trial?

If you include lynchings (and I am), very recently:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_violence_against_LG...

Re: PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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Porn is very addictive to many people (Reddit has some great posts by many people trying to break free) - anything that gives you a huge dose of dopamine for little effort can be dangerous to someone’s life (not medically dangerous, but certainly emotionally and motivationally). It’s like saying drugs are absolutely fine because they don’t destroy everyone that take them. Or maybe alcohol is a better comparison.

Porn is very addictive because the person has no idea how to form real life relationships and engage in real sex in a healthy way. In the same way video games are very addictive because it gives you a sense of accomplishment when you have no mental tools to go out and improve your situation in life. In the same way weed is addictive when you have no mental tools to face hardships in your life and you would rather esc…

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Re: PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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>What's wrong with these people? someone told me once "Think of the US less like a secular Western European country and more like a very rich Iran" and that really does help to make sense of a lot of these decisions

When's the last time the US publicly executed a homosexual person or adulterer, with or without trial?

With trial seems to be 1785 [1]. Without trial here's a list of killings in the last year: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_violence_against_LG...

[1] https://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=h...

Re: PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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The funny thing is the minors know how to use a VPN to get around this law whereas the many older users don't! So, in Utah the minors will be able to access porn and many of the adults will not! Good job Utah!

Not quite, have you not been following the news that new generations are worse with technology than the previous ones? Minors barely know how to use a computer nowadays, they only use smart phones.

You can use a VPN from a phone. So the point stands.

Re: PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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Porn is not dangerous, it is just parents that don't want to talk about sex with their kids. What is dangerous is social media, which should be banned < 21.

Pornography is dangerous. It's extremely addictive and users become increasingly tolerant to what their viewing, often leading to the development of distressing fetishes or real life intimacy issues. I'm sex positive and I believe in being open with children about the realities of life but the dangers of pornography are real.

> It's extremely addictive and users become increasingly tolerant to what their viewing, often leading to the development of distressing fetishes or real life intimacy issues.

This is a strong claim - please provide a source. I think it may be true, but is it?

Re: PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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Porn is not dangerous, it is just parents that don't want to talk about sex with their kids. What is dangerous is social media, which should be banned < 21.

Pornography is dangerous. It's extremely addictive and users become increasingly tolerant to what their viewing, often leading to the development of distressing fetishes or real life intimacy issues. I'm sex positive and I believe in being open with children about the realities of life but the dangers of pornography are real.

When you use the word "extremely", what kind of incidence are you referring to?

If someone says "water is extremely common in the solar system", I'd expect maybe two in three planets to have it. Half at minimum.

Re: PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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Just the fact that pornography is being taken seriously as something that's dangerous for minors is a good thing really.

That is something that your parents or community elders could have told you. Why does the state need to intervene? Phub is also a legitimate business that has commercial advertising interests in the US, so they're incentivized to play nice. There are about a million other websites that aren't based in North America, contain only pirated material, and don't care about what laws are applicable where.

Half the kids in this nation don’t have the parental guidance to avoid addictions in general.

The point of the US is to let the states self-regulate things like this.

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