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What did they say about either religion or purity?

Anti porn or anti sex sentiment is rooted in religion. Even if the person isn't practicing religion, him or her holding these views are indicative of some religious upbringing with the standard amount of brainwashing.

And what's your basis for that belief?

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It makes no sense to me that every physical store in a state must check IDs if you want to buy porn or alcohol, but porn websites can just let anyone in without checking ID. There are legitimate privacy concerns with checking ID online, but I think it’s way past time that the government does something to restrict the supply of porn to minors via the internet. The same with social media. The evidence that social media…

I checked wikipedia at the age of 11 (21yrs ago) and learned every kind of fetish in existence. There are enough ways for parents to educate and limit access to things.

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The porn industry exploits vulnerable women and ruins their lives, forces them to do stuff they never signed for and much more. You trying to paint this issue as a white and black political thing makes you dismiss all the victims from this industry. You're basically dismissing it as "if you're part of this specific political team you should support/be against this"

This law has nothing to do with performers and their safety whatsoever

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But is pornography dangerous for minors? Has it been researched? What "dangers" are there? Do these apply to all age groups of "minors"?

It's addictive for one. There are increasing number of support groups for men who are struggling with pornography use and for their spouses in dealing with having a dependant partner. It creates a space for people to explore and normalise their distressing sexual interests without questioning the root causes. Producers will often intentionally seek out vulnerable young women and groom them with promises of fame and r…

Sugar is addictive. And it might have more effect on your lifespan than the consumption of pornography. Quality of life, too.

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But is pornography dangerous for minors? Has it been researched? What "dangers" are there? Do these apply to all age groups of "minors"?

Pornography is that which harms the soul. That's true of all people not just minors. The question then becomes what should be classified as pornography. Justice Stewart famously said "I know it when I see it". My definition is close: "pornography is that which harms my soul". That means that what is porn will differ for different people and probably by age as well.

Porngraphy harms the soul? What exactly is the soul you're referring to? Something metaphysical? Do you have any science or data behind this assertion?

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It makes no sense to me that every physical store in a state must check IDs if you want to buy porn or alcohol, but porn websites can just let anyone in without checking ID. There are legitimate privacy concerns with checking ID online, but I think it’s way past time that the government does something to restrict the supply of porn to minors via the internet. The same with social media. The evidence that social media…

There are about a gazillion porn websites and legislation only affects the top like 3 of them. Completely pointless unless you have an entire surveillance system like China's firewall

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>Because it's literally illegal for children to view porn Is this actually even true? So if my underage son finds a porn magazine in my house, it's "illegal" for him to look at it? That doesn't sound right. >Imagine if a liquor store just decided it was fine to let kids come in and purchase liquor and you said "Why is it the liquor store's responsibility to not sell booze to kids?" Imagine comparing going to a physic…

Yes it's true. Children can't go in a physical store and purchase porn anywhere. "Imagine comparing going to a physical location with no easy digital trace and buying something that is basically 100% socially acceptable to digitally tracking what kind of taboo and private porn someone wants to watch. " You're making excuses for allowing this. Just stop. The mental and physical health of children takes precedence over…

>Yes it's true. Children can't go in a physical store and purchase porn anywhere.

That's not what I asked... you said it was "literally illegal for children to view porn". Give me a source for it because I can't find one.

There is a difference between SELLING porn to underage children, and children being able to view it. I'm talking about viewing it. Going to google and searching for porn and getting results is NOT the same as a store literally selling porn to kids- and since you are on a tech website, you obviously know that.

>You're making excuses for allowing this. Just stop

>The mental and physical health of children takes precedence over adults need to keep their fetishes "private"

Ah the response of "THINK OF THE CHILDREN!" to justify taking away our right to privacy. Where have I heard that one before?

>Until very very recently everyone had to go into a store to purchase this stuff.

Yeah, going to some random store in the 80s and buying what you wanted with cash where no one had any idea who you were, no way to track you is definitely the same as my license being linked to every link I click on at pornhub. Yup, same thing... why are you giving such a disingenuous argument?

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Just my own thoughts: there could theoretically be an identity system that simply replies "Yes/No" if someone is underage or not. But nothing like this exists to my knowledge.

That service would need to be run by a third party, which would know your id and the fact that you are trying to access pornhub, wouldn't it?

No, there are fairly well established technologies to do this without giving the third-party any information about which site is asking for authentication. The most famous that comes first to mind is the Kerberos protocol.

An simplified example could be that I ask the third-party to sign a package that include my current IP address, a message that say "I am over 18", and a validity period. They sign it (after I identify myself to the third-party), and give me the requested signature. I then give this to the website and the website can verify the signature of the third-party. The website only know my IP address, the time, and what third-party service I use to verify my age. Third-party only know my ip address, the time, and that I requested a token for "I am over 18".

A major drawback occur if this is only used for porn. In that case, the message "I am over 18" will be synonymous with porn use and thus giving the third-party information that they should not have.

Re: PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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It makes no sense to me that every physical store in a state must check IDs if you want to buy porn or alcohol, but porn websites can just let anyone in without checking ID. There are legitimate privacy concerns with checking ID online, but I think it’s way past time that the government does something to restrict the supply of porn to minors via the internet. The same with social media. The evidence that social media…

> It makes no sense to me that every physical store in a state must check IDs if you want to buy porn

Right?

Re: PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

#320

It makes no sense to me that every physical store in a state must check IDs if you want to buy porn or alcohol, but porn websites can just let anyone in without checking ID. There are legitimate privacy concerns with checking ID online, but I think it’s way past time that the government does something to restrict the supply of porn to minors via the internet. The same with social media. The evidence that social media…

There are about a gazillion porn websites and legislation only affects the top like 3 of them. Completely pointless unless you have an entire surveillance system like China's firewall

A lot of those porn sites also are not free ( so automatically age restricted).

PornHub is somewhat unique in that it’s so large and totally free.

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