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Re: Classic fountain pens

#22
I have a Cross fountain pen, not sure what the model is, I'm not even sure how great it is or isn't.

However I have had it at least since high school and that is over 30 years ago...

Only have changed the nib and it still writes great.

Re: Classic fountain pens

#23
As a fountain pen enthusiast who uses fountain pens exclusively, this list surprises me.

What does this author want to cover? Good looking expensive stuff?

Just buy a Pilot Metropolitan or a Lamy Safari. Or even a Platinum Preppy. These pens are extremely cheap.

And beyond these pens, if you notice any improvement in smoothness and comfort of writing, I would throw that in the margin of error.

People have their reasons to buy more expensive pens. But if smoothness, comfort are your goal, then you can buy what I said.

Metal-body Lamys and Pilots are also generational wealth. You can hand over one to your daughter after you write 40 years with it.

My favorite fountain pen so far is: Pilot Custom 823. That's a bit expensive.

But I used Metropolitan, Preppy, and Safari for close to a decade. And I had only these pens. Nothing else.

Re: Classic fountain pens

#24
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Has anyone here improved their handwriting later in life? How much practice did it take?

You can improve just by learning the right technique (how to hold the pen, how to write by moving the arm rather than the wrist) and learning the proper letter shapes. That won't take more than a couple of hours, and from then on you just get practice by applying what you learnt whenever you have to write something down.

Re: Classic fountain pens

#25
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For those of us that arent raking in the FAANG dosh for a 3 figure pen, give TWSBI a try. theyre just as good. https://www.twsbi.com/

I'll second this recommendation!

The TWSBI Eco is a beautiful, robust, and dependable pen.

Re: Classic fountain pens

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For anyone with a budding or casual interest in fountain pens, the Lamy Safari is the way to go. They're plentiful, inexpensive, rugged, and have plenty of nibs, cartridges, and refillable cartridges to experiment with. Just pick your color and start using it to figure out what you value in a pen. Don't let the grip shape scare you off, you might like it more than you thought, but if not it won't ruin the value as an…

A big problem with Safaris is they dry out quickly. There are many great pen varieties nowadays, none of which have this common fountain-pen shortcoming. Safaris are suitable for people who write daily; others should look elsewhere.

Do you have a recommendation?

Re: Classic fountain pens

#27
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For those of us that arent raking in the FAANG dosh for a 3 figure pen, give TWSBI a try. theyre just as good. https://www.twsbi.com/

I have a lot of fountain pens, some very high end, some cheap garbage. The TWSBI Echo is my favourite pen to write with. The nib is dreamy. Pare that with J.Herbin ink and it's the best writing experience I've ever had.

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#28
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Has anyone here improved their handwriting later in life? How much practice did it take?

I have improved my handwriting. It took a few months of consistent journaling with a fountain pen to find the "font" that worked for me. Now, I have different writing styles depending on how much time I can take. I use a broad nib for quick note taking because I don't have time to make it look "good", and a fine flex nib for when I'm journaling which I use to flourish things a bit.

Re: Classic fountain pens

#29

What advantages do fountain pens still have over modern gel ballpoints? I like the whole experience of fountain pens, how nice they look and the 'old-school' aspect, but sadly I don't feel they are practical any more.

The advantages are all minor—mostly it's an aesthetic preference rather than a practical one. But there are a few small things:

- The mechanism of a fountain pen relies on capillary action and gravity rather than the mechanical rolling action of a ballpoint. This means you don't have to press the point down into the paper almost at all in order to write. This reduces writing fatigue, and can even make writing possible for folks with carpal tunnel or other sources of wrist pain (like healing wrist fractures or other issues).

- Cursive was developed before ballpoints were common. This means that there's a bunch of subtle ways that most western cursive systems are optimized for the low-friction, gliding style of writing with a fixed tip and liquid ink rather than the constant pressure style of writing needed for ballpoints. It's actually less work and strain with a ballpoint NOT to join all your letters together. With a pen that uses liquid ink, it suddenly makes sense why not picking the point up from the page saves effort.

- Fountain pens (can) use less disposable plastic than ballpoints, especially if you're a heavy journaler. A glass bottle of liquid ink will last months or years and there's no plastic inserts or disposable tips to be thrown away. So if you care about that sort of thing, a little bit less waste is an objective advantage.

- Bottles of ink are cheaper per page written than most ballpoint refills. But, this is an invisible benefit to most because depending on how far you get into the hobby you'll inevitably end up spending much more on pens and paper than you would've ever spent on ballpoint refills.

- The ink choices are way more diverse and interesting with fountain pens than with ballpoints. There's many color options available, and some inks have special properties, like drying with fun reflective spots wherever the ink pools or containing microscopic glitter particles to make your writing sparkly.

- Fountain pens, depending on the specific design, are better suited for certain styles of calligraphy than most ballpoint pens are.

But most people who get into fountain pens and ink do so because of aesthetics, not anything objectively superior.

Re: Classic fountain pens

#30

What advantages do fountain pens still have over modern gel ballpoints? I like the whole experience of fountain pens, how nice they look and the 'old-school' aspect, but sadly I don't feel they are practical any more.

The biggest advantage fountain pens have is physics.

Ink flow in a fountain pen is via capillary action (touch nib to paper, ink flows), as opposed to a ballpoint pen where you have to apply a small constant amount of downward force for the ball to have enough friction against the paper for the ball to roll. This might not seem like a big deal, but if you're writing a lot, it means that your wrist & hand will get much more fatigued with a ballpoint over time.

Put another way, ballpoints have absolute advantage over fountain pens, except for "sitting down and writing a lot."

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