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PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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Re: PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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Post by _yb2s »

mkoryak wrote: post #240
basisword wrote: post #227

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Where are you based? I can purchase alcohol from Amazon UK with no obvious age checks. Deliveroo require that riders verify your age but in reality they just ask you to type it in. And the major grocery stores deliver alcohol without any obvious checking too. I imagine teenage drinking is much easier these days thanks to the above :)

About a month ago I had my groceries delivered from Wholefoods and the deliver driver carded me for some non-alcoholic beer I had purchased. I tried explaining to him that he didn't have to do that, but he wouldn't unload my groceries until I let him scan my ID.

I had this a lot during the pandemic lockdown, for groceries and takeout… things that weren’t even liquid or food were mislabeled in some database as alcohol, requiring stressful social interaction when the whole point was no contact dropoff. Crazy how people aren’t allowed to use common sense but have to follow an apps instructions.

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Post by ActorNightly »

0zemp2c wrote: post #251
ActorNightly wrote: post #212

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Except despite the vast amounts of counter-evidence, people still are somehow dumb enough to think that hiding stuff from kids works (drugs, guns, porn, e.t.c). Porn is absolutely fine for kids to watch as long as the parents properly contextualize it. The issue is that somehow societally accepted that its taboo to talk to your kid about sex at an early age, and plenty of otherwise normal parents are embarrassed to d…

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This isn't the place to preach about your religious "purity" dogma.

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Post by splitstud »

philwelch wrote: post #143
BowBun wrote: post #128

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China is a poor example if you're trying to say that people can circumvent political technology decisions. The firewall works for 90%+ of their population and allows them to present versions of events that don't align with the rest of the world. That can happen in the US as well, and we already know there's organizations that are willing to do it.

You don’t need a firewall to present versions of events that don’t align with the rest of the world. We’ve managed to do that with a completely unfiltered internet for years now.

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Re: PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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Post by DrThunder »

eatsyourtacos wrote: post #162
DrThunder wrote: post #140

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Because it's literally illegal for children to view porn. The fact they've gotten away with doing nothing this long is ridiculous. Ultimately parents will need to be more involved but the idea that it's just ok to have a free for all on this stuff is ridiculous. There's lots of things children aren't legally allowed to access but I can't think of any of them that do absolutely nothing to meet those legal requirements…

>Because it's literally illegal for children to view porn Is this actually even true? So if my underage son finds a porn magazine in my house, it's "illegal" for him to look at it? That doesn't sound right. >Imagine if a liquor store just decided it was fine to let kids come in and purchase liquor and you said "Why is it the liquor store's responsibility to not sell booze to kids?" Imagine comparing going to a physic…

Yes it's true. Children can't go in a physical store and purchase porn anywhere.

"Imagine comparing going to a physical location with no easy digital trace and buying something that is basically 100% socially acceptable to digitally tracking what kind of taboo and private porn someone wants to watch. "

You're making excuses for allowing this. Just stop. The mental and physical health of children takes precedence over adults need to keep their fetishes "private". As if this stuff isn't being tracked in all sorts of ways already anyway. Until very very recently everyone had to go into a store to purchase this stuff.

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Post by berkes »

Eisenstein wrote: post #242
theclansman wrote: post #209

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I feel like in our society we're always beta testing everything before researching its effects, shouldn't we research the effects of internet pornography in kids before allowing them unlimited access to it? I think the same thing should be done with social media. There's obviously a thin line where you have to use common sense (where do we start and where do we stop?) but the consensus has always been that this is ad…

> shouldn't we research the effects of internet pornography in kids before How do you propose we do that ethically?

I'm no sociological, or psychological scholar, but I can imagine that simply by asking kids in high school questions, you'll learn plenty.

There are many researches done and still being done on how addictive drugs are, or on the negative (or positive) effects of drugs. Eventhough they are both illegal and often rather dangerous. You don't need to feed a healthy 15 year/old a daily near overdose of cocaïne to learn about the effects of cocaïne on a young persons' brains.

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Post by AlecSchueler »

ActorNightly wrote: post #212
theclansman wrote: post #182

Just the fact that pornography is being taken seriously as something that's dangerous for minors is a good thing really.

Except despite the vast amounts of counter-evidence, people still are somehow dumb enough to think that hiding stuff from kids works (drugs, guns, porn, e.t.c). Porn is absolutely fine for kids to watch as long as the parents properly contextualize it. The issue is that somehow societally accepted that its taboo to talk to your kid about sex at an early age, and plenty of otherwise normal parents are embarrassed to d…

You're equating porn with sexuality. I'm a grown man and I find most of what's on the front page of PornHub to be deeply disturbing. I see racism, misogyny, incest, even simulated assault.

In a world where sexual assault is so common I think we need to seriously reconsider what we're consuming and what we're normalising by calling this stuff harmless.

And I don't get what you're suggesting in saying hiding stuff doesn't work. Like, I like to enjoy a bit of LSD sometimes but I definitely keep that out of reach of children.

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Post by mtlmtlmtlmtl »

zxcvbn4038 wrote: post #129
wunderland wrote: post #24

The US is also planning a law that would make it illegal to use VPNs to skirt laws like this: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/04/could-tiktok-ban...

Good luck with that ;) how are all those senators and congressmen going to watch porn with a law like that on the books?

Why would they watch porn when they can afford prostitutes?

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Post by mensetmanusman »

0zemp2c wrote: post #252
welshwelsh wrote: post #201

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Why do you think that? I think it's a good thing for minors to have unrestricted access to porn

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“Children, after we watch Daniel Tiger, we will watch what happens to this school teacher by all these men”

There is actually a long dark history of adults abusing children by exposing/exploiting them in regards to such topics. It was rife in Germany post WW2 in certain communities, currently a huge issue in Pakistan. Child trafficking on an absolute basis is higher now than it has been.

That’s just to say, people like who you are asking to seek help are numerous and unchecked behavior in this area has a dark history in humanity.

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Post by whats_a_quasar »

mkoryak wrote: post #240
basisword wrote: post #227

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where are you based? I can purchase alcohol from Amazon UK with no obvious age checks. Deliveroo require that riders verify your age but in reality they just ask you to type it in. And the major grocery stores deliver alcohol without any obvious checking too. I imagine teenage drinking is much easier these days thanks to the above :)

About a month ago I had my groceries delivered from Wholefoods and the deliver driver carded me for some non-alcoholic beer I had purchased. I tried explaining to him that he didn't have to do that, but he wouldn't unload my groceries until I let him scan my ID.

This happens to me at self-checkout at Safeway. I guess I can get somebody to come and check my ID, but seems unnecessary.

Re: PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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Post by berkes »

0zemp2c wrote: post #238
berkes wrote: post #193

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But is pornography dangerous for minors? Has it been researched? What "dangers" are there? Do these apply to all age groups of "minors"?

> What "dangers" are there? turning in to a pathetic, obese lech who sits at home alone blowing another paycheck on Onlyfans, clinging to the misguided notion that women want anal on the first date? and even worse, when real life doesn't line up with six-minute videos, the even worse outcome of woman-hating manifests

Isn't that all the more reason to educate, research and invest in this? Rather than forbidding it?
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