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Brain activity of dying people shows signs of near-death experiences
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Re: Brain activity of dying people shows signs of near-death experiences
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
If tiny chemicals can do that to you, because you ingested them, what about all of the other things you ingest, including sound, which cause chemicals in your brain to make reactions?
Sounds do have a strong effect on people's emotions, but they don't tend to affect the way in which you think (maybe emotionally) in the same way that psychedelics can do.
Words, transmitted by sound _absolutely_, without a single doubt, can affect the thoughts of an individual. And, of course, horns and loud sounds and noises will also affect the thoughts.
Re: Brain activity of dying people shows signs of near-death experiences
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
If reincarnation is real, I guess the afterlife faces a crisis due to the impending demographic crash here. The lines of souls awaiting reincarnation are about to get real long, as lots of people die of old age without people having children to ensure a fast return.
I reckon they'll just go stuffing multiple souls into each baby. Has anyone tried counting the number of souls per body?
If you watch certain tiktok channels too much, you open up space for more souls to enter. Seems to works best for younger girls though.
Re: Brain activity of dying people shows signs of near-death experiences
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
If tiny chemicals can do that to you, because you ingested them, what about all of the other things you ingest, including sound, which cause chemicals in your brain to make reactions?
Is this a question? If yes, what is the field of possible answers?
Well, the answer is literally that everything you ingest affects you. It affects your body and the body affects the mind. From the food you eat to the words you hear, your body and mind is affected.
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The science of keeping humans healthy is fairly well researched and can also be explained, but that same science cannot convey the experience of being healthy.
That leads to the outcome that your statement "The science of keeping humans healthy is fairly well researched" is false. Actually it is the least researched field among the most important, in my humble opinion.
No, it doesn’t. Because the study of health and the being of health are separate topics entirely.
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unfortunately many things in western culture that get close to mysticism are disregarded as hallucinations or random neurological firings. Same goes with dreams and such. It’s the ‘religion of science’ defaulting to the ‘god’ of deconstructionism. Just hallucinations, nothing more. I understand why, there’s certainly many things which were once said to be mystic, but ended up less so. However, anyone who has done res…
I don’t understand the why anymore. More than 2000 years ago, we understood that we must be a sum of parts and that kind of idea yielded the atom. We applied the atom to many kinds of structures to discern their nature. Now, atom means some scientific particle. We simply have more things to name, but still constantly run into things we cannot name yet. We think this will end but it will not. If our universe is ever e…
> still constantly run into things we cannot name yet.
Humanity has the opposite problem - we invent names for things that don't exist. We have no idea what dark matter is, but we have a name handy just in case. Same with gods, elves, dragons, aliens, etc.
I can't find one example of people not being able to name something that exist. Worst case just name it "phenomenon X" where X is the first unused integer.
I can find lots of examples of people naming things that don't exist. See phlogiston and ether for example, if you don't like fantasy and religion.
Re: Brain activity of dying people shows signs of near-death experiences
#37> The sensation of moving down a tunnel towards a bright light, reliving past memories and hearing or seeing deceased relatives have all been reported by people from many cultures who have had a brush with death. Sceptics, however, say these experiences could be caused by people hallucinating as they recover in hospital. The way that the default is presented here is interesting. Interpreting the experiences as halluc…
Unfortunately many things in western culture that get close to mysticism are disregarded as hallucinations or random neurological firings. Same goes with dreams and such. It’s the ‘religion of science’ defaulting to the ‘god’ of deconstructionism. Just hallucinations, nothing more. I understand why, there’s certainly many things which were once said to be mystic, but ended up less so. However, anyone who has done res…
I’ve done plenty of psychedelics. I have no idea why you would imply dreams and near death experiences are in the same boat, and much further than that, why you’d combine them with the concept of an afterlife. The pineal gland isn’t a third eye.
Dreams are blatantly not random neurological firings, but have no inherent relation to death or the concept of life after death at all.
Near death experiences are similar. The fact that humans have similar experiences when dying is probably not so different from how our behaviors and experiences line up in a multitude of ways, across cultures.
You’re the one dismissing hallucinations as simple or unimportant. Understanding them is crucial to understanding human perception and interpretation at large.
Pretty much all of what psychedelics taught me is that the human brain is soooo fucking primed to see patterns and make sense from anything. Close your eyes hard enough and put some white noise in your ears and see god now.
Re: Brain activity of dying people shows signs of near-death experiences
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sounds do have a strong effect on people's emotions, but they don't tend to affect the way in which you think (maybe emotionally) in the same way that psychedelics can do.
Words, transmitted by sound _absolutely_, without a single doubt, can affect the thoughts of an individual. And, of course, horns and loud sounds and noises will also affect the thoughts.
Those affect your thoughts, but don't really change the manner in which you think to the same degree that psychedelics do.
I'd grant some exceptions such as a zen student receiving a lesson/koan that drastically changes their thought processes, but I'd argue that the change was already within them and the sound was just the catalyst - the same lesson/koan is unlikely to have similar effects on other people, and certainly not without the recipient having spent time studying that religion/philosophy.
Re: Brain activity of dying people shows signs of near-death experiences
#39It's a final upload to the cloud, with checksum checks...
People who die traumatically don't remember the event because their last back-up is a few hours old.
Re: Brain activity of dying people shows signs of near-death experiences
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
If reincarnation is real, I guess the afterlife faces a crisis due to the impending demographic crash here. The lines of souls awaiting reincarnation are about to get real long, as lots of people die of old age without people having children to ensure a fast return.
We’re in a period of karmic-inflation, where any given soul will get you about 1/5th what it’d get you in the good old days. Nowadays you’d be lucky to die into a fish or bird - most of us are destined bugs, or industrial farm animals.
But the insect population is rapidly decreasing, so are many fish and birds.
No if you ask me, most of us will reincarnate into bacteria.